Will Geriant Jones become the new Gilchrist?

[badgerhair]

What ever happened to James Crawley?Was Stewart the reason for his lack of Test matches?

He changed his name to John, for one thing.

The main reason for his lack of Test matches was his lack of success when actually selected.

He seems to have made little enough impression: I've recently read Atherton's excellent autobiography and Stewart's, and neither of them have much to say about him except that he never fulfilled his promise. (Incidentally, Stewart's book is one of the very few which has an accurate comment in the blurb. It says "This book will shock, entertain and amuse in equal measure." Absolutely spot on. It isn't shocking, entertaining or amusing at all, which seems to be entirely true of Alec Stewart himself.)

Cheers,

Mike

 

[blackcapsrule]

Could be the new Stewie -IF he improves his keeping-I think that in 2006/07 he could get in for his batting.

Well he certainly will not be getting in for his keeping.

 

[marc71178]

John Crawley

And he wasn't a keeper, so Stewart wouldn't have been keeping him out of the team.

 

[luckyeddie]

John Crawley

'kreeper' crawley

 

[tooextracool]

1. He would have got more time to correct his weaknesses in batting

and with all the technology and everything around in those days?i wouldnt be surprised if he even realised he had a weakness let alone beeing able to work on it.

2. He would have been physically more fit and stronger.

fitness of players now is far far better than what it was 50 years ago....players then were more rotund and most of them were poor fielders.

3. He would have been more hungry for runs..

why?because players become more hungry with time? he'd have to be stupid to not be hungry for runs now.

4. He would have learnt to be less attacking (thanks to excess of ODIs).

because players like bradman etc were defensive?tendulkar would have still played his natural game regardless of whether he had been introduced to ODIs then.

 

[a massive zebra]

Tendulkar has lost his way in test matches?

Since the year 2000, Sachin Tendulkar has averaged a whopping 73.58 in test cricket with 11 centuries to his name during that four year period, with only one bad season in 2003 (where he only played 5 test matches).

Tendulkar losing his way in test cricket, get real.

Liar.

Why make figures up?

Tendulkar in Tests since 2000:

41 69 7 3629 241* 58.53 11 14

 

[Sanz]

Liar.

Why make figures up?

Tendulkar in Tests since 2000:

41 69 7 3629 241* 58.53 11 14

And 58.53 is better than his Pre-2000 avg. isn't it ??

 

[a massive zebra]

And 58.53 is better than his Pre-2000 avg. isn't it ??

Yes but its nowhere near the figure Masterblaster stated.

2000 (26y 252d) 6 10 1 575 201* 63.88 2 1
2001 (27y 252d) 10 18 2 1003 155 62.68 3 6
2002 (28y 252d) 16 26 1 1392 193 55.68 4 5
2003 (29y 252d) 5 9 0 153 55 17.00 0 1
2004 (30y 252d) 4 6 3 506 241* 168.66 2 1

Overall 41 69 7 3629 241* 58.53 11 14

 

[chicane]

2003 (29y 252d) 5 9 0 153 55 17.00 0 1

That one year's slump because of which he's past his prime.....

2004 (30y 252d) 4 6 3 506 241* 168.66 2 1

And immediately in the next year he's back! Umm no, not for some people yet.

 

[chicane]

Liar.

Why make figures up?

Tendulkar in Tests since 2000:

41 69 7 3629 241* 58.53 11 14

I think maybe he said his average is 73.58 not counting the 2003 season...

 

[Sanz]

and with all the technology and everything around in those days?i wouldnt be surprised if he even realised he had a weakness let alone beeing able to work on it.

Are you suggesting that, since the technology was not there, players in those days didn't know they had a weakness. I guess all those ex-cricketers who say that they were able to correct their weakness because they would work on them during off seasons must be liars. Just an example for you, Remember Mohinder Amarnath, when he started playing he really didn't know how to play short-pitch bowling but when he retired he ended of the best Indian player of short pitch and fast bowling.

fitness of players now is far far better than what it was 50 years ago....

Still they are not getting enough time to recover from injuries esp. when they are as important as Sachin Tendulkar for their team. Players now are playing more matches than ever, e.g. Sir Gary Sobers played 93 test matches in 20 years, Tendulkar has played 114 Tests and 330+ Odis in 15 years.

players then were more rotund and most of them were poor fielders.

So basically Sachin is playing in the era of better fielders meaning working harder to get his runs than those who made their runs against rotund and poor fielders.

why?because players become more hungry with time? he'd have to be stupid to not be hungry for runs now.

I didn't suggest that batsmen today are not hungry for runs, I meant to say that 30-40 years ago players would work on their weakneses, learn new techniques in the off season and would be eager to have a go at bowlers esp those ones against whom they might have struggled in the previous season. Batsmen today do not have that luxury, they need to play all the time and score runs all the time.

because players like bradman etc were defensive?tendulkar would have still played his natural game regardless of whether he had been introduced to ODIs then.

Not really, Attacking batting in a test match and attacking in the first/last 15 overs of ODIs are two different things, I am sure you know the difference. Intrestingly we have been discussing 'Bradman's avg in contemporary cricket' and some folks argues that If Sir Don batted today his avg. would be lower than what it was then.

 

[Sanz]

Yes but its nowhere near the figure Masterblaster stated.

2000 (26y 252d) 6 10 1 575 201* 63.88 2 1
2001 (27y 252d) 10 18 2 1003 155 62.68 3 6
2002 (28y 252d) 16 26 1 1392 193 55.68 4 5
2003 (29y 252d) 5 9 0 153 55 17.00 0 1
2004 (30y 252d) 4 6 3 506 241* 168.66 2 1

Overall 41 69 7 3629 241* 58.53 11 14

Well I dont know how masterblaster reached that figure, we will have to wait till he explains it. But I guess his point has been proved which is 'Tendulkar is hardly losing his way in Test Cricket'.

 

[marc71178]

That one year's slump because of which he's past his prime.....

And immediately in the next year he's back! Umm no, not for some people yet.

So people can't say he's past his prime based on a year's figures, but you can say he's as good as ever based on a year's figures?

 

[Sanz]

Headley never played for a great team.He had to shoulder much more responsibility than Tendulkar.Sobers didn't really play in a great team.They were jsut really good if you want to call it that.

Do you see anyone calling Sobers or Hadlee over-rated, Flat-track/Fast-track bully ?? Do you see anyone taking any credit away from hadlee or Sobers ??

Why does Tendulkar have to be discussed in almost every thread?This is about Geraint Jones and wicket-keeping and Tendulkar is not connected to any of those topics.

Ask those who are obsessed with Tendulkar.

 

[luckyeddie]

Why does Tendulkar have to be discussed in almost every thread?This is about Geraint Jones and wicket-keeping and Tendulkar is not connected to any of those topics.

It goes something like this...

1. Have an intelligent discussion
2. Still have an intelligent discussion
3. Still have an intelligent discussion, possibly wavering just a bit
4. I log on
5. I Pick on Ged or TEC or Scallywag, knowing they're good for a giggle
6. Thread somehow goes off topic
7. I log off
8. Thread somehow finds its way back on topic
9. Have an intelligent discussion
10. I log on, realising I had possibly been a bit naughty
11. Actually read the thread
12. Realise it's about someone with a Welsh name
13. Crack sheep gag to try to elicit a response from New Zealanders
14. Pick fight with Spofta
15. Think 'my work here is done', log off or find another thread

Next question?

 

[Gaijin-san]

16. Wipe the sweat from your armpits.
17. Smell hands.
18. Realize it's been too long since a shower - time for less cynical ventures on CW.

 

[luckyeddie]

16. Wipe the sweat from your armpits.
17. Smell hands.
18. Realize it's been too long since a shower - time for less cynical ventures on CW.

19. QED

But I'm English - I don't have showers or clean my teeth.

 

[Gaijin-san]

And to think Mike Myers beat you for the part of Shrek then...

Try to make your next post without using the words 'Darren' and 'Lehmann'.

 

[PY]

Do you ever bother to say anything nice about anyone?

 

[Andre]

Do you ever bother to say anything nice about anyone?

There's always one bad egg who's too petty to let people enjoy themselves, Pete. He'll grow up some time.