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*** Official *** Tendulkar criticism thread

Arachnodouche

International Captain
Have you waded through the huge amounts of self effacing, denial-mode GUNK he's been spouting in these interviews? That last bit in there about him attributing the Oz losses to a big partnership/match is so, so bad. And disrespectful to the Australians.
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
Have you waded through the huge amounts of self effacing, denial-mode GUNK he's been spouting in these interviews? That last bit in there about him attributing the Oz losses to a big partnership/match is so, so bad. And disrespectful to the Australians.
No it isn't. Take out those 300+ Partnerships of Clarke and Ponting and the Aussie scorecard wouldn't look any better than India's. In pretty much every match we managed to get the Aussies 2 or 3 down for not much but we simply couldn't get rid of those two right handers. Even in the Perth test you take out Warner and Cowan's partnership and the rest of the Aussie score would be around 150 odd or so runs. Unfortunately for us those "big" partnerships were really big, we're not talking 100 runs.. it was usually 150 or 250 or 300 plus sometimes.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Mukul Kesavan is one of those type of writers who specializes in criticising everything.
 

uvelocity

International Coach
Kesavan seems to be pretty anti-tendulkar. These two bits I was really nodding my head at;

"The other interesting thing about this rash of public appearances was the contrast it made with Tendulkar's camera-shyness through the rout in England, the whitewash in the Australian Test series, and the wooden spoon in the triangular one-day tournament in Australia. Pretty much every other player had trudged up to the post-match interview and dealt with the mortification of being publicly quizzed about abject defeat, but not Tendulkar. "

and

"For a man who through his long career, has been a model of unassertive poise, the crassness of the publicity blitz and his own odd complicity, is startling. It cheapens a great cricketing legacy, like a tinsel garland on a solid gold icon."

Especially the media ban in Australia. He has been getting standing ovations on and off the field here for two consecutive tours, the silence from him this time was deafening.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
haha......a bot possibly but he hasn't been banned yet since his joining date so might not be

some of the criticisms were fair but the guy seemed to be criticizing everything.

And NO. India didn't lose the Asia cup match against Bangers due to Tendulkar
 

Arachnodouche

International Captain
It's disingenuous coming from an experienced hand like that. Games often hinge on one or two pivotal partnership. He wouldn't be caught dead saying the same about the Eden game of '01. That was a "team effort". He just seems to be in overall denial when he says things like he's batting the best he has in 22 years. Maybe he feels so for real, being the great batsman that he is and all, but it all feels a bit rich to me.
 
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vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
No it isn't. Take out those 300+ Partnerships of Clarke and Ponting and the Aussie scorecard wouldn't look any better than India's. In pretty much every match we managed to get the Aussies 2 or 3 down for not much but we simply couldn't get rid of those two right handers. Even in the Perth test you take out Warner and Cowan's partnership and the rest of the Aussie score would be around 150 odd or so runs. Unfortunately for us those "big" partnerships were really big, we're not talking 100 runs.. it was usually 150 or 250 or 300 plus sometimes.
If you don't get people out, you lose games of Test cricket.

It's not like its a one-off, there were some massive partnerships in the series that England played against India, because India sat back once a partnership developed and waited for a wicket. There were times (Perth) when they managed to be effective afterwards, but in general the whole momentum of the game was lost during that period. You're basically saying, if we didn't play badly during some of the most important parts of the match, then maybe we would have won.
 

Burgey

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No it isn't. Take out those 300+ Partnerships of Clarke and Ponting and the Aussie scorecard wouldn't look any better than India's. In pretty much every match we managed to get the Aussies 2 or 3 down for not much but we simply couldn't get rid of those two right handers. Even in the Perth test you take out Warner and Cowan's partnership and the rest of the Aussie score would be around 150 odd or so runs. Unfortunately for us those "big" partnerships were really big, we're not talking 100 runs.. it was usually 150 or 250 or 300 plus sometimes.
Take out Dravid and Laxman for one day and Australia wins in India in 01. It doesn't work that way mate. Come on.
 

Sparkley

Banned
Tendulkar has been a bit of an idiot wrt handling the media over the last year or so. It's hard to blame him given what he has to go through but a player who has played as long as him should know better than to make ridiculous statements like they scored the same as us if you remove one big partnership and whatever crap. It's akin to saying Chris Martin has scored the same as Sachin if you remove all of the latter's scores above 2.
 

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
The dire attempts at defending India's performance in those 2 test series from all and sundry related to Indian cricket are plain appalling.
 

Sparkley

Banned
The largest chunk of blame should go to Srikkanth. Worst selector ever.......and I thought Hilditch was bad.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
Tendulkar has been a bit of an idiot wrt handling the media over the last year or so. It's hard to blame him given what he has to go through but a player who has played as long as him should know better than to make ridiculous statements like they scored the same as us if you remove one big partnership and whatever crap. It's akin to saying Chris Martin has scored the same as Sachin if you remove all of the latter's scores above 2.
:laugh:
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
To be completely honest, I can understand him being frustrated. But there were worse criticisms thrown at him when he was actually doing much better. But in the last year and a half, we have seen him bat for the red ink one time, slow down for a 100 at the cost of getting a bigger total for his team once and now we are seeing him challenge journalists with words like they wont know what he is going through unless they have scored 99 international hundreds etc etc. He said his critics did not teach him cricket. All are very valid challenges but as I said, it just shows he is not the same Sachin anymore.... And I always have a thing about those sort of challenges, you don't see the other greats of other sports respond this way to criticism.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Kesavan seems to be pretty anti-tendulkar. These two bits I was really nodding my head at;

"The other interesting thing about this rash of public appearances was the contrast it made with Tendulkar's camera-shyness through the rout in England, the whitewash in the Australian Test series, and the wooden spoon in the triangular one-day tournament in Australia. Pretty much every other player had trudged up to the post-match interview and dealt with the mortification of being publicly quizzed about abject defeat, but not Tendulkar. "

and

"For a man who through his long career, has been a model of unassertive poise, the crassness of the publicity blitz and his own odd complicity, is startling. It cheapens a great cricketing legacy, like a tinsel garland on a solid gold icon."

Especially the media ban in Australia. He has been getting standing ovations on and off the field here for two consecutive tours, the silence from him this time was deafening.
He doesn't speak to the media generally during series nowadays.Doesn't matter if it is home or away or whether India is winning or losing. Nothing to do with Australia
or India losing there specifically.

As for the interviews he did after his 100 hundreds, i guess it was due the amount of time he had been away from the media and the requests he would have gotten. Also, the events held for him which the media went out of it's way to cover, were held by either companies or the board. I don't get how he should take the blame for that.
 

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