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*** Official *** Tendulkar criticism thread

Shri

Mr. Glass
The OP was so obviously trollish and absurd that it was more of a joke post rather than to bait people. As if people believe I actually think Tendulkar is by far the best batsmen ever and all that. Can't believe the fuss over this, grow up people.
Thing is that line of thinking is about par for you.
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
Controversy
Despite his highly impressive career record, not one of Sachin Tendulkar's innings appeared in the top 100 batting performances. His omission was strongly criticised by fans and many sections of the media in India.[3] Wisden defended the list stating that performances which majorly contributed to victories received a much larger weighting than those in which the match was drawn or lost. Tendulkar's most important innings had usually come in draws and defeats which received a lower weighting.[4]
The list also received general criticism from a few leading sports editors.[5]
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Find it quite funny how people are saying "this without doubt now confirms his status as the greatest ever". It's not like his ability suddenly improved drastically somewhere between scoring century 99 and century 100. Either he was previously, and is now, or was not, and is not. Don't think this milestone can be used as conclusive evidence of anything other than the fact he's reached a milestone.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Find it quite funny how people are saying "this without doubt now confirms his status as the greatest ever". It's not like his ability suddenly improved drastically somewhere between scoring century 99 and century 100. Either he was previously, and is now, or was not, and is not. Don't think this milestone can be used as conclusive evidence of anything other than the fact he's reached a milestone.
This so much.
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
Find it quite funny how people are saying "this without doubt now confirms his status as the greatest ever". It's not like his ability suddenly improved drastically somewhere between scoring century 99 and century 100. Either he was previously, and is now, or was not, and is not. Don't think this milestone can be used as conclusive evidence of anything other than the fact he's reached a milestone.
It's like saying someone suddenly became old on their 100th birthday.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Find it quite funny how people are saying "this without doubt now confirms his status as the greatest ever". It's not like his ability suddenly improved drastically somewhere between scoring century 99 and century 100. Either he was previously, and is now, or was not, and is not. Don't think this milestone can be used as conclusive evidence of anything other than the fact he's reached a milestone.
Ability didn't but actually achieving specific milestones certainly elevates him. Its another thing to accomplish, which would in many peoples eyes, makes his rank progressively higher as he achieves more and more of these milestones.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
It's a grand achievement, I don't deny that in any way. But if people didn't believe he was the greatest ever before he scored one century in an ODI against Bangladesh last week, then I don't see why they should now.

To quote Cool Runnings: If you ain't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
It's a grand achievement, I don't deny that in any way. But if people didn't believe he was the greatest ever before he scored one century in an ODI against Bangladesh last week, then I don't see why they should now.

To quote Cool Runnings: If you ain't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
Well its not an on/off switch - its a gradation. You could be close and a milestone or an achievement can push you over the edge. Ponting didnt become a better batsman the day after he scored a century in india but the fact that he did definitely increased his value in my eyes.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Well its not an on/off switch - its a gradation. You could be close and a milestone or an achievement can push you over the edge. Ponting didnt become a better batsman the day after he scored a century in india but the fact that he did definitely increased his value in my eyes.
I think the value and appreciation I have for a batsman increases with every significant score they make for sure. But to go from not the greatest batsman ever, to the greatest batsman ever without a doubt simply because of one century? Nah.

He may even be the greatest batsman for all I care, he may even be so because of this landmark. What I'm getting at, is that if anyone didn't perceive him to be the greatest before this most recent century, I see no reason why they would now be swayed by this evidence.

I agree that these sorts of things should be measured in terms of a gradation, but if someone believes that Tendulkar's grade changed so drastically over the course of one match, that to me is akin to suggesting it is in fact much like an on/off switch. It's this notion which I submit is totally incorrect.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Well, it's like I said, I've seen various people (not just on here) basically saying things along the lines of "this without doubt now confirms his status as the greatest ever". Which to me is a stupid sentiment.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Well if you do believe that, there has to be some arbitrary point which takes him from "arguably the best" to "definitely the best.". This mark is as good as any.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Well, to someone who believes that, maybe it is. As you may have guessed, however, I am not of this disposition.
 

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