***Official*** India in Sri Lanka

[Manee]

Impressed with Prasad. He's shown the pace about him. If there has been the third seamer, we could have seen him getting up to 150k mark, because he would have known he's going to bowl a short spell.

Let's not go overboard - he only consistently broke 140kph in his first spell.

 

[Migara]

Let's not go overboard - he only consistently broke 140kph in his first spell.

Don't try to cover the obvious. He made it up to 147k in A side tournament in UAE. Now with better fitness and better follow through, he is more pacier. Worried that Sharma was only up to 143k?

 

[Manee]

Don't try to cover the obvious. He made it up to 147k in A side tournament in UAE. Now with better fitness and better follow through, he is more pacier.

I felt you were implying that he'd consistently push 150kph if he was played as the third seamer, whereas I am suggesting that if it happens, which I think is unlikely then it will only likely happen in his first spell. Was the A team tournament a OD tournament? I need not tell you that bowlers tend to bowl a good 5kph quicker in OD cricket than unlimited overs cricket.

Worried that Sharma was only up to 143k?

Yes, petrified.

 

[silentstriker]

Pace is so overrated by people that it's bordering on the ludicrous. There is a reason why none of the top five best fast bowlers of all time were Thompson-express (McGrath, Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose, Lillee) for most of their careers. 140kph is enough. Pace helps, but the majority of the time, it ends up being at the exclusion of other things, which is no good.

 

[Manee]

Pace is so overrated by people that it's bordering on the ludicrous. There is a reason why none of the top five best fast bowlers of all time were Thompson-express (McGrath, Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose, Lillee) for most of their careers. 140kph is enough. Pace helps, but the majority of the time, it ends up being at the exclusion of other things, which is no good.

True and an often repeated point. Keep in mind that neither of us are encouraging the bowlers to go all out and bowl fast; it is just an interesting talking point.

 

[Anil]

Pace is so overrated by people that it's bordering on the ludicrous. There is a reason why none of the top five best fast bowlers of all time were Thompson-express (McGrath, Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose, Lillee) for most of their careers. 140kph is enough. Pace helps, but the majority of the time, it ends up being at the exclusion of other things, which is no good.

marshall was really fast though, maybe not at thommo's level, but he was not medium-fast or fast-medium or whatever, he was consistently genuinely fast and was the fastest bowler in the world at his peak...that said, i agree that pace is overrated....

 

[Anil]

bah! tendulkar back to his inconsistent ways...., if he doesn't get out of this slump soon, this last bit of his career will be perceived as hanging on to break lara's record...

 

[zaremba]

Pace is so overrated by people that it's bordering on the ludicrous. There is a reason why none of the top five best fast bowlers of all time were Thompson-express (McGrath, Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose, Lillee) for most of their careers. 140kph is enough. Pace helps, but the majority of the time, it ends up being at the exclusion of other things, which is no good.

Marshall very often bowled extremely fast.

Ambrose was also very rapid at his peak.

And there are other great fast bowlers to consider. When Waqar was young he was also right up there with the greatest of all time, largely because of his amazing pace. He remained a very good bowler with reduced pace, but he wasn't quite the same.

 

[adharcric]

Don't understand why people are saying it's completely Sri Lanka's game. Yeah, even 250 is below par but I don't think this is a road and India got some momentum back after that last-wicket stand and the early breakthrough. Of course, it's still advantage Sri Lanka but it's not that one-sided IMO. Prasad had some pace and got a little inward movement but he seems like a one-dimensional bowler. That said, he'll probably be a better option than a 120-kph Vaas once Malinga returns.

 

[silentstriker]

Marshall very often bowled extremely fast.

Ambrose was also very rapid at his peak.

And there are other great fast bowlers to consider. When Waqar was young he was also right up there with the greatest of all time, largely because of his amazing pace. He remained a very good bowler with reduced pace, but he wasn't quite the same.

They both could, but they weren't express in the sense 155k+. Marshall (I would guess was in the mid 140s most of the time), with some spells higher. Again, its impossible to judge by eyesight, so take that with a grain of salt. I could be completely wrong, and I'll have to take the word of those who faced him. Ambrose was in the high 130s a lot. McGrath was between 130-140 most of his career, with around 138-140 earlier, and around 130-135 later on.

 

[chaminda_00]

Decent debut by Prasad, but I'm not sure yet if he is the long term option. Though if he stays fit he might provide some decent back up. He has pace, but it is not excessive and not consistently fast. He doesn't have a lot apart from pace and doesn't have a great deal of control at this level. Could improve but not going to go overboard just yet.

Mendis continues to impress.

 

[chaminda_00]

I felt you were implying that he'd consistently push 150kph if he was played as the third seamer, whereas I am suggesting that if it happens, which I think is unlikely then it will only likely happen in his first spell. Was the A team tournament a OD tournament? I need not tell you that bowlers tend to bowl a good 5kph quicker in OD cricket than unlimited overs cricket.

FWIW he has been bowling near 150kph in the domestic FC competition as well, only during his first spell though.

 

[Precambrian]

Vandort gone.

BTW didnt Ishant Sharma break 150kph down under?

 

[Athlai]

Not from my memory, as I haven't seen him much elsewhere it makes me wonder why he gets labeled genuinely fast. Didn't appear much faster than Sreesanth and co.

Sri Lanka getting off to a good start, hope Vaas tons up, that'd be gun.

 

[Ikki]

Vandort gone.

BTW didnt Ishant Sharma break 150kph down under?

Yeah, I remember this. He was bowling pretty fast here.

 

[chaminda_00]

Vandort gone.

BTW didnt Ishant Sharma break 150kph down under?

I think it was at the WACA he broke 150. There was one spell I remeber late in the ODI series where he bowled with some real heat and was averaging 145ish.

 

[Precambrian]

Vaasy gone after a splendid 47.

 

[Precambrian]

Mahela too gone. Was pretty plumb. Wasted a review imho.

 

[adharcric]

Jayawardene gone - India back in the game. Really hope Laxman and Tendulkar are able to bat.

 

[Dissector]

Really hope Laxman and Tendulkar are able to bat.

Does it make any difference?