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*Official* India in Australia Thread
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mustang
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
I initially thought Australia would be all out 250 or so..at this rate the total at stumps will be over 310..Something to cheer about atleast we won't lose, a draw sounds sweeter - and I'm certain. Think of it from an Indian perspective, Pathan is still inexperienced, Kumble doesn't have anyone to back him up. Compare this to Waugh playing his last innings, Katich and the tail determined to push for a draw. 
Slow Love™
International Captain
Wow, mustang, you're confident!
Not to harp on it, but I do think that if we survive this game, it'll be because we didn't follow-on.
But regardless... Mommy, I'm scared. :wow:
Not to harp on it, but I do think that if we survive this game, it'll be because we didn't follow-on.
But regardless... Mommy, I'm scared. :wow:
Slow Love™
International Captain
There is something kinda poetic about it though...Tim said:
mustang
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Self-confidence is the result of a successfully survived risk that I experienced at club cricket...
To get a complete picture you must always analyse a situation thru the opponents perspective.. India is no Pakistan with bowling, like South Africa they too have choked at crucial times..eg. world cup final and TVS tourney final..
On that note, I'm out for a smoke..be back after tea
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I don't believe the follow on will cost India the game, I believe Langer being given not out will. The momentum would of been up and anything could of happened, oh well. What may cost India the game is Gillespie's innings.
Well a draw isn't anything to brag about for Australia. India deserve to take home the trophy and will go into the VB Series choc full of confidence.
I think what sums up this test match is Kumble has got more wickets than the entire Australian cricket team.
Well a draw isn't anything to brag about for Australia. India deserve to take home the trophy and will go into the VB Series choc full of confidence.
I think what sums up this test match is Kumble has got more wickets than the entire Australian cricket team.
Slow Love™
International Captain
I still think that not enforcing the follow-on reduced India's chances of an outright victory, although they still might get it. I think that the Aussies' capacity for suicide (a "sporting" declaration to entice India on a run chase, or just being bowled out going for all-out attack in order to quickly set a total) would have given India an easier ride to victory, as their fate would have rested with a batting attack that has dominated the Australians the entire summer.Jono said:
BTW, what you said regarding Kumble is absolutely true. The Australian bowling attack was mostly (perhaps with the exception of Gillespie) reduced to rubble in this match, and Kumble carries a lot of responsibility for India's decent chance of winning this series.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Kumble has bowled like one of those Energizer bunnies, but even he needed a rest and that's one reason why the follow-on wasn't enforced. I also think the Gillespie/Katich partnership spoilt it, it was an annoying partnership which may just cost India the match.
They're bowling Sachin, can he pull some of that 'Sachin Magic' we have come accustomed to whether it be with the ball or bat?
They're bowling Sachin, can he pull some of that 'Sachin Magic' we have come accustomed to whether it be with the ball or bat?
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mustang
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
By ignoring, or not acknowledging, all three, the Indian skipper has made three monumental blunders, despite calling all the shots from the moment he won the toss - and batted, and batted, and batted.
Monumental mistake one – not declaring around an hour from stumps on the second day, with 610-620 on the board. The Aussies would have been in the field for 11 hot and energy-sapping hours, had bowled badly, had dropped catches, and were low in confidence – an ideal time for Ganguly to turn the screws, and make the Aussies pay.
Monumental mistake two – taking the pressure off Simon Katich and Jason Gillespie on day four, by setting deep fields for Katich, and trying to get stuck into the tail – negative captaincy when all-out attack was so obvious. The onus was on the batsmen to survive and score runs, they were the ones under the pump, while the Indian bowlers held all the aces. As a result, Katich played the innings of his life for a maiden Test ton, and with Gillespie’s 47, they put on a priceless 117 – thanks entirely to Ganguly taking his foot off the pedal.
Missed mind games.
And monumental mistake three has given the Aussies a sniff of getting out of goal. Eventually dismissed for 474, 231 adrift, Ganguly didn’t enforce the follow-on.
All India had to do is draw this Test, to retain the Border-Gavaskar Trophy. If Ganguly had asked the Aussies to bat again, that was game, set, match and series. There was no way Australia could have wiped off the 231 deficit, and scored enough runs on the last day to dismiss India for a win – no way known, impossible. Ganguly tried to justify his ridiculous decision by saying his bowlers were tired after 117.5 overs, especially leggie Anil Kumble, who had soldiered on for 46.5 of them – excuse me, tired after just 117.5 overs? Do you think, for one moment, Anil would have been tired after capturing 8-141, his best overseas haul? No way known, his adrenalin would have been pumping, he could have bowled for a week.
At last this is a good draw
Monumental mistake one – not declaring around an hour from stumps on the second day, with 610-620 on the board. The Aussies would have been in the field for 11 hot and energy-sapping hours, had bowled badly, had dropped catches, and were low in confidence – an ideal time for Ganguly to turn the screws, and make the Aussies pay.
Monumental mistake two – taking the pressure off Simon Katich and Jason Gillespie on day four, by setting deep fields for Katich, and trying to get stuck into the tail – negative captaincy when all-out attack was so obvious. The onus was on the batsmen to survive and score runs, they were the ones under the pump, while the Indian bowlers held all the aces. As a result, Katich played the innings of his life for a maiden Test ton, and with Gillespie’s 47, they put on a priceless 117 – thanks entirely to Ganguly taking his foot off the pedal.
Missed mind games.
And monumental mistake three has given the Aussies a sniff of getting out of goal. Eventually dismissed for 474, 231 adrift, Ganguly didn’t enforce the follow-on.
All India had to do is draw this Test, to retain the Border-Gavaskar Trophy. If Ganguly had asked the Aussies to bat again, that was game, set, match and series. There was no way Australia could have wiped off the 231 deficit, and scored enough runs on the last day to dismiss India for a win – no way known, impossible. Ganguly tried to justify his ridiculous decision by saying his bowlers were tired after 117.5 overs, especially leggie Anil Kumble, who had soldiered on for 46.5 of them – excuse me, tired after just 117.5 overs? Do you think, for one moment, Anil would have been tired after capturing 8-141, his best overseas haul? No way known, his adrenalin would have been pumping, he could have bowled for a week.
At last this is a good draw
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Slow Love™
International Captain
I agree pretty much completely with mustang, although I don't think that batting on to 700 on such a good batting track was as much of a monumental mistake as the others. It was important for India to establish domination early, and without batting on like that, they wouldn't have had the power to enforce the follow-on in the first place.
One thing I would like to see is some pitches that offer a little more to the bowlers. These flat tracks are getting ridiculous.
One thing I would like to see is some pitches that offer a little more to the bowlers. These flat tracks are getting ridiculous.
Draw!!!
Kumble just doesn't have enough support. I know I was against his inclusion and Karthik's exclusion, but while Kumble has had a massive career revival, Karthik's looks almost over.
I guess the Aussies are just too good to be bowled out under a day against this attack. The main reason why this attack is getting any respect is because of the superb show put on by the batsmen, but unfortunately it is just too much to ask of them. I shouldn't complain, I thought it would be a 3-0 series for the Aussies and not 1-1 with the Indians pushing the Aussies to the edge.
Hopefully the Indians will carry on from this and win an away series soon. They have shown that they are capable, they are bridging the gap between potential and performance, now they should start getting the results.
Kumble just doesn't have enough support. I know I was against his inclusion and Karthik's exclusion, but while Kumble has had a massive career revival, Karthik's looks almost over.
I guess the Aussies are just too good to be bowled out under a day against this attack. The main reason why this attack is getting any respect is because of the superb show put on by the batsmen, but unfortunately it is just too much to ask of them. I shouldn't complain, I thought it would be a 3-0 series for the Aussies and not 1-1 with the Indians pushing the Aussies to the edge.
Hopefully the Indians will carry on from this and win an away series soon. They have shown that they are capable, they are bridging the gap between potential and performance, now they should start getting the results.
Slow Love™
International Captain
Has anybody else enjoyed Akash Chopra's performance at short leg this test? I'd swear at various times (particularly during Kartik's first spell in the first innings), he was ready to walk up to the bowler and smack him upside the head for bowling a line where the Aussie bats are liable to take his head off... 
Slow Love™
International Captain
Well done, Steve! If he can survive, there might even be time for a hundred. Imagine that, for a moment.
Hopefully Ch9 will stay with the cricket for the last session, rather than running to the news...
Hopefully Ch9 will stay with the cricket for the last session, rather than running to the news...
mustang
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
next stop: VB series.
Australia must win that, after all all the four tests they've bin playing ODI games
I think Australia must concentrate on breaking the world record 398 (highest ODI score) and Punter must go for (194 highest individual score) against Zimbabwe or India.
Australia must win that, after all all the four tests they've bin playing ODI games
I think Australia must concentrate on breaking the world record 398 (highest ODI score) and Punter must go for (194 highest individual score) against Zimbabwe or India.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
You can rag on Ganguly all you like, but he's the one that got India back in this series with his 100 as they could have easily crumbled in the first Test in Brisbane. He has done India prowd with a fighting series and really, the 4th test has been all India.
Why reflect on the negatives? Everyone predicted 4-0 for Australia on the first page, well it didn't quite work out that way and India proved everyone wrong. Ravi Shastri said it best, Ganguly will go home a hero.
Why reflect on the negatives? Everyone predicted 4-0 for Australia on the first page, well it didn't quite work out that way and India proved everyone wrong. Ravi Shastri said it best, Ganguly will go home a hero.
mustang
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
No, Ganguly I agree is India's best cricketer and skipper. I know he's a hero in India. This is a cricket forum, I'm simply pointing where he missed his golden opportunities as a cricketer. Waugh is also a hero but at the end of day, they're cricketers first. It was only professional cricket talk, I ain't saying Ganguly doesn't deserve credit - ofcourse he does after all he brought India the closest to winning a series abroad in the past 18 yrs, moreover he also brought India to the World Cup final..