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yeh bell played a very good knock, and now collingwood.. as marc said, there are plenty of starts.. which is a promising sign..
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***Official*** England in India
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UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
It looks more and more obvious that Bell is going to be England's key batter in this series. He's taken Thorpe's place and is going to be so crucial holding the England innings together.
Barney Rubble
International Coach
I don't know, I've never seen him bowl - neither have you, and neither has Kambli, which is my point. He took 54 (I think) wickets @ 21 in English conditions last year, so he's done a lot better in FC cricket than 90% of spinners to play in England in recent years. We'll see how good he really is if and when he makes his Test debut - until then, people like Kambli and yourself should stop passing judgement, else you're going to look very stupid if he does succeed.sheerindianspeed said:
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
though it has to be said that Wantage Road hardly constitutes English conditions at present - it's a complete bunsenBarney Rubble said:I don't know, I've never seen him bowl - neither have you, and neither has Kambli, which is my point. He took 54 (I think) wickets @ 21 in English conditions last year, so he's done a lot better in FC cricket than 90% of spinners to play in England in recent years. We'll see how good he really is if and when he makes his Test debut - until then, people like Kambli and yourself should stop passing judgement, else you're going to look very stupid if he does succeed.
Barney Rubble
International Coach
True, but he didn't take all of them at Wantage Road I guess.superkingdave said:
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Depends what you mean by 'key batter'. I think everyone knows what to expect from him in the series, grinding slow-scoring cricket and 40 or so average for the series unless the pitches are particularly different from expected. It's how the others bat that will probably decide how the series plays out, because KP/Flintoff especially could be brilliant, or they could be awful, if the most of the rest of the batsmen are awful Bell won't have time to score many anyway.UncleTheOne said:
UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
Back on page 32. He was just banging on about how he feels England will get spanked and that he fears for Monty if given his chance against the mighty Indian batsmen.Jono said:
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
no, he played 4 games away from home - taking 7-185 in the game at Essex (Chelmsford is pretty spin friendly aswell), 4-48 against Worcestershire, 0-80 against Leicestershire and 4-124 against Somerset. He didn't play in a couple of away games because Northants only played one spinner and chose Brown.Barney Rubble said:
15 wickets@29.13
took 31@17.89 at home
Although the pitches in India should be more to his liking than not.
UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
I feel he'll be key in the way that you can build an innings around him. He can grind out scores whilst the bashers like KP and Freddie (providing he took his batting brain with him) can play around him. He can be the glue that holds the innings together.Scaly piscine said:
Scaly piscine
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
UncleTheOne said:
Hmm, seems like he's a bit of a troll really. I don't suppose Kambli is going to be playing in any of the warm-up games by any chance?
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
The batsman, from an Indian viewpoint, I fear the most is Trescothick. I'm worried that he may take India's opening bowlers apart, particularly if conditions don't suit Pathan, and will be well set to combat the spinners. I can always see Freddy or Pietersen throwing their wicket away, and whilst Bell may graft out runs he won't turn the game in a session I'd imagine, but Trescothick is someone I think will play very well on this tour. England's starts will be vital, if they build platforms for the middle order, and if the middle order don't stuff it up like they did in Pakistan, then England will be in a good position.
UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
Lol, I should think not. I don't think Mr. 9 bat grips has played for sometime.Scaly piscine said:
UncleTheOne
U19 Captain
Indeed Tres will be crucial. Especially if it's not doing much early on for the Indian quicks, they could quickly turn into cannon fodder, he certainly is key in setting the tone to an innings for England. Along with Bell he seems the most at home play in the sub-continent.Jono said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Read my series preview - I picked out Trescothick as England's key man. Great minds think alike, eh?Jono said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
My cricketing insight is surprising even to myself.Jono said:Hehe yeah
coaches
as a neutral observer i'm really looking forward to this series, both teams are trying to bounce back from a pakistani thrashing in recent months (surely they are the next cricket superpower, gave australia a touch up in the U-19s too).
there is a lot at stake, the loser of the series will be condemned to mediocre status with the corresponding clean out.
its a big series for tendulkar, i love the little fella but honestly this geoffrey boycott approach to batting has got to go - 5 years ago i would have said he's the best batsman to watch i've ever seen, these days i'd prefer to go and mow the lawn until he gets his precious hundred and starts playing some shots. i know he's "doing the team thing" but look at how quickly shahid afridi and adam gilchrist (pre-ashes) swing test matches with their aggression.
i think the coaches will be significant. duncan fletcher is a crafty tactician, greg chappell thinks he is. the bloke was sacked as south australia's coach after his left-field theories yielded a wooden spoon.
prediction - indias spinners will prove the difference.
as a neutral observer i'm really looking forward to this series, both teams are trying to bounce back from a pakistani thrashing in recent months (surely they are the next cricket superpower, gave australia a touch up in the U-19s too).
there is a lot at stake, the loser of the series will be condemned to mediocre status with the corresponding clean out.
its a big series for tendulkar, i love the little fella but honestly this geoffrey boycott approach to batting has got to go - 5 years ago i would have said he's the best batsman to watch i've ever seen, these days i'd prefer to go and mow the lawn until he gets his precious hundred and starts playing some shots. i know he's "doing the team thing" but look at how quickly shahid afridi and adam gilchrist (pre-ashes) swing test matches with their aggression.
i think the coaches will be significant. duncan fletcher is a crafty tactician, greg chappell thinks he is. the bloke was sacked as south australia's coach after his left-field theories yielded a wooden spoon.
prediction - indias spinners will prove the difference.
England all out for 299! good news for the indian fans. Looks like pieterson and flintoff r not in much form as well, meaning that they r less likely to take the game away frm the indians. However, i still wouldn't underestimate them. strauss and Bell seem to be in form and vaughn as well. However if they r gettin 299 against the cc team, they'll do crap aginst the real indian attack. By the way, whcih bowlers of the cc team r spinners and did the england team struggle against them? any ideas?