its difficult to say whether hes a good enough ODI bowler or not based on just a handful of ODIs, most of which i havent watched. but from what ive seen from him in tests thus far, hes looked largely incapable, both in terms of variety as well as pace. of course that doesnt mean that he can never succeed but as of right now, he isnt test class.Jono said:
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Well I would say his swing is pretty lethal when he's on song. That test hat-trick against Pakistan was one example. You don't need great pace if you have good variation or swing (McGrath, Pollock today) and I think Pathan can be that kind of a bowler because he can control the ball pretty well. Now don't think that I'm even starting to make any comparisons between Pathan and those two or any other world-class bowlers. He definitely needs to increase his pace to AT LEAST the low 80s on a consistent basis to become world-class, but he can be test-class the way he's bowling right now provided that he keeps the swing and control that's made him effectively lately. He's bowled well against Sri Lanka but fared poorly in the 2nd innings at Karachi. He wasn't very ineffective on those dead tracks because of his lack of pace either. On the whole, Pathan is definitely test-class but needs additional pace and consistency to approach world-class status.tooextracool said:
pathan doesnt really swing the ball unless the conditions really assist him. nor can he swing the ball both ways. his hatrick against pakistan was in really swing friendly conditions and you only need to look at the ball that got youhana out(seriously that swung from outside off stump to middle stump) to realise that hes only effective in extremely favorable conditions. you dont need pace if you have good variation yes, but pathan has no real variety in his armoury.adharcric said:
alright well you do have a point, but we're better off seeing pathan's next few series in various conditions and then assessing him than going back and forth and citing various instances. i'll admit he hasn't met expectations with his bowling display in pakistan, but he looked good against sri lanka at home, and those weren't swing-friendly conditions. let's see how he does against england, west indies and south africa.tooextracool said:
You actually think Pan is actually any good???Barney Rubble said:Haha, what is Kambli on.....insane stuff. He's probably never even seen Panesar bowl.
I don't think Pathan will make much of an impact during the series. I am guessing that the wickets will be dusty with moving top surface tailor made for Kumble and Bhajji. But if Pathan gets assistance from the wicket, Jones will come to crash the Indian party. All in all, should be a good contest.adharcric said:
It's 16-a-side, so most most of them are frontliners.social said:
