***Official*** England in India

[R_D]

C'mon, India should clearly have won this series and the fact that it is still up in the air is their fault not Hair's.

YEah i know that... we've played poorely and don't really think we deserve to win the series. England have probaly outplayed us most of the series.
But seriously there's somthign wrong with Darrel Hair... if that guy's incomptent umpire than how's it that his incomptence usually seems to help England, SA et al. Yes another conspiracy theory by indian trolls eh ?

 

[alternative]

woohooo its stumps..

 

[Jono]

Please don't fill this thread with talk about whether Hair is biased or not, especially when you are arguing it to someone who apparently knows him. Its going to go nowhere fast!

 

[R_D]

One more whilst I'm at it.

Did Hair teach Pathan to drag full-tosses on to his stumps?

obviosuly.
Pathan thought he was goin to be given lbw sooner or later.

 

[social]

YEah i know that... we've played poorely and don't really think we deserve to win the series. England have probaly outplayed us most of the series.
But seriously there's somthign wrong with Darrel Hair... if that guy's incomptent umpire than how's it that his incomptence usually seems to help England, SA et al. Yes another conspiracy theory by indian trolls eh ?

At the end of a series, you'll generally find that most of the bad decisions go against the team most under pressure, e.g. get hit on the pads enough and sooner or later you'll get a bad decision.

I criticised the umpires during the Ashes as much (probably more) than anyone. Fact of the matter was that Aus was generally on the back foot and were subject to far more appeals. The umpires, however, didnt make McGrath step on a ball, cause batsmen to play loose shots, or set the English field placings.

India cant blame the umpires for their predicament - that's a cop out. They may well still win the series but have to look within if they dont.

 

[adharcric]

Ian Flintoff

 

[SJS]

Even if England do not win this test, they should go back with head held high. For a team deprived of five major players of the Ashes triumph(besides Cook for this game) they have done much more than any of us gave them credit for.

It is amazing that we are still discussing they they may square the seried with one day left. If they had ben beaten three nil, we would have been discussing India slaughtered a B team of England.

Lets give credit where its due. Umpires are neither here nor there. Hair has as much chance of being biased as Yuvraj has of being involved with bookies for dropping those catches.

 

[social]

Please don't fill this thread with talk about whether Hair is biased or not, especially when you are arguing it to someone who apparently knows him. Its going to go nowhere fast!

It's not about whether I know Hair.

Personally, I could never believe that the guy I knew became a test match umpire.

That's not to say he's honest or dishonest (I just never thought that's where his ambitions lay).

India simply have to look elsewhere for blame against a half-strength team at home, that's all.

 

[CDAK]

A revised batting order may help India in the coming test series, even if they want to continue with 5 bowlers.
Sachin is no more the key player for india.So, to get his contribution, send him as an opener. He has got 14000 runs as opener in Cricket. If he plays some of those knocks in a test, it will be better than his ducks in 4th down. There's no point in saying he is not a geuine opener. Take the Sehwag for example
Another advantage, another better batsman can be included. So make use of Sachin rather than making him retire so early. Please comment on this.

 

[SJS]

India simply have to look elsewhere for blame against a half-strength team at home, that's all.

India have been let down by their batsmen. Sehwag, Sachin and Yuvraj have just one measly fifty between them. But for Jaffer's great comeback and Dravid's determined (though by no means great) batting has barely managed to keep India in the picture. Just that when you are playing just five specialist batsmen (barring the one ball played by Laxman in this series) and its clear what India's main bug has been.

Its the bowlers that have for once made up for an extremely disappointing series for the much vaunted Indian lineup.

The poor fielding and terrible wicket keeping by Dhoni when standing up has also helped England match India at home.

 

[silentstriker]

A revised batting order may help India in the coming test series, even if they want to continue with 5 bowlers.
Sachin is no more the key player for india.So, to get his contribution, send him as an opener. He has got 14000 runs as opener in Cricket. If he plays some of those knocks in a test, it will be better than his ducks in 4th down. There's no point in saying he is not a geuine opener. Take the Sehwag for example
Another advantage, another better batsman can be included. So make use of Sachin rather than making him retire so early. Please comment on this.

I've had enough with make shift openers. I wouldn't mind getting another specialist opener and moving sehwag down the order a little bit.

 

[silentstriker]

India have been let down by their batsmen. Sehwag, Sachin and Tendulkar have just one measly fifty between them.

I know Sachin is good enough to count as two people, but I think you mean Sehwag, Singh and Tendulkar

 

[CDAK]

I've had enough with make shift openers. I wouldn't mind getting another specialist opener and moving sehwag down the order a little bit.

There's no problem with Sehwag's position. He averages 53 there, moreover his type of play had helped India in the past and can be used to dominate the opposition. At present he is out of touch it never means that his position is to be changed.

 

[SJS]

I know Sachin is good enough to count as two people, but I think you mean Sehwag, Singh and Tendulkar

Old age and related ailments

 

[SJS]

A revised batting order may help India in the coming test series, even if they want to continue with 5 bowlers.
Sachin is no more the key player for india.So, to get his contribution, send him as an opener. He has got 14000 runs as opener in Cricket. If he plays some of those knocks in a test, it will be better than his ducks in 4th down. There's no point in saying he is not a geuine opener. Take the Sehwag for example
Another advantage, another better batsman can be included. So make use of Sachin rather than making him retire so early. Please comment on this.

Are you suggesting he opens with Sehwag or with Jaffer.

Also unless on of these two is dropped, how will this help inclusion of another batsman?

But I like the thought of Sachin opening with Jaffer and Sehwag coming in at four.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Nasser Hussain spewing rubbish now, saying that specialists should come out to do the batting. So obvious he wanted Dravid to come out so his favored team could get the big wicket.

If India wanted to win the game, they would have sent Dravid out.

 

[SJS]

If India wanted to win the game, they would have sent Dravid out.

Even I would have liked to see Dravid opening surely it is not because I want India to lose. Its the first time I am missing five days at a stretch from work in last five years. because I want so desperately to see and India series win.

 

[marc71178]

Lol, imagine if Harbhajan and Kumble were bowling last on this wicket.

Rahul had that chance!

 

[vic_orthdox]

Even I would have liked to see Dravid opening surely it is not because I want India to lose. Its the first time I am missing five days at a stretch from work in last five years. because I want so desperately to see and India series win.

Not necessarily opening, IMO.

If they wanted to win the game, by sending out a night-watchman, you are either wasting a wicket because you want him to get out so that Dravid can make the runs for you, or if you want him to make runs chances are that Kumble will do it a lot slower than recognised batsmen, and make it harder for the team to win.

 

[marc71178]

Well presumably there's someone in the England team who agrees with you. Personally I'd have sooner England were bowled out for 100 in 35 overs than this

Because setting 220 in 5 sessions would've really been good wouldn't it?!