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Indian Batting Order for ONE DAY!

delkap

State Vice-Captain
alexkumar said:
I think Dinesh Karthik is 1000 times better than parthiv patel.

And Ramesh Powar is n't all rounder.

later
Have u personally gone and watched Dinesh Karthik.. ?

Mind u 2 of Indian selectors are former wks in Kirmani and More
 

CrimeMasterGogo

School Boy/Girl Captain
until we find a genuine all rounder...iot makes more sense to fill the spot with a specialist batsman (i'd prefer a specialist bowler...but i doubt India would go in with 5 bowlers)

Mr Mxyzptlk's order is the best because it puts everyoine where they want to be
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Virender Sehwag
Sachin Tendulkar
VVS Laxman
Sourav Ganguly (c)
Rahul Dravid (vc)
Yuvraj Singh
Ramesh Powar
Dinesh Karthik +
Irfan Pathan
Laxmi Balaji
Zaheer Khan

Rest of the squad -Anil Kumble, Mohammad Kaif , Harbhajan Singh ,Ajit Agarkar .
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
because it increases the chance of burn out , for your best batsman to keep for 50 overs and then bat again for long periods of time. 3 yrs to the wc, you'd think its time to try and find another keeper-batsman
There are as many as 2 wicketkeepers who are good enough to make the national team, far better than Parthiv Patel, but the people in charge think Parthiv is the answer to the team's wicketkeeping problems, but in reality, the little man is just another wicketkeeping problem.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
until we find a genuine all rounder...iot makes more sense to fill the spot with a specialist batsman (i'd prefer a specialist bowler...but i doubt India would go in with 5 bowlers)
They can paly a batsman as a regular bowler or a bowler as a top-7 batsman for as many as 4 years, regularly, so that you'd end up with an all-rounder. Never play a batsman as a keeper- there's just one wicketkeeper in a team of 11.
 

alexkumar

Banned
hi moo,

I don't know what you are smoking. We do not need another spinner/batsman combo.

We need fast bowling alrounder.

Powar sucks in batting and bowling.

It is pity we do not have not even one Fast bowling Alrounder in domestic cricket.

My ODI XI order.

Tendulkar
Ganguly
Sehwag
Yuvaraj/laxman*
Dravid
Dinesh Karthik
Kaif/laxman/or Fast bowling Alrounder*.
Balaji
Pathan
Kumble
Zaheer Khan/Nehra

Laxman has to do dual role to get into this team. Not just batting. Either he has to bowl or field better. He does neither. I will drop him from ODI XI.

Mediuam / Fast Medium bowling Alrounder - yet to find. (he just being born. hahaha. :D ).

The reason i moved Sehwag is to keep the run rate moving. When ever sehwag gets out , Team run rate slows down drammatically.

When sehwag got out , the run rate was 19/over. Then it went down to 5. 400% decrease. Hahaha!.

That is why sehwag batting down.

You can respond now.

Later
 

ReallyCrazy

Banned
There is only one thing i agree w/ alexkumar and that is about Laxman. I dont think he warrants a place in the one day side. He is not a good OD player at all. I think he is the most stylish/elegant batter I have seen but he gets very scratchy in one dayers.

I don't care what a batter averages......he could even average 50+ but it really matters whether he is reliable or not. This is especially true for a batter at positions 3 or 4. Laxman is NOT a realiable batter. By reliable I mean, a player should at least average 25 without counting his big (infrequent) scores. Laxman, in the last year, with his 5 centuries (and 2 of them not outs) averages 44 (I'd have expected a bigger aveage). But without those 5 centuries, he avearges 16. He's not reliable at all. He shouldn't be in the team. A middle order batter has got to be reliable not hit or miss.

Also one good point alexkumar makes is that laxman is in the team only for his batting. He cannot bowl and he isn't a good fielder either.

I'd have kaif at number 4. He is not a big shot maker but a guy who makes runs by picking up singles all the time w/ the odd boudary. If he comes in at 4, he will have a lot of time to get a partnership going w/ dravid and yuvraj. India can pick up a lot of runs by way of singles that laxman misses out on.

And guys don't disagree with what i said just for the sake of disagreeing. Think about it..............laxman is just not that good.
 

Waughney

International Debutant
Umm....were you asleep throughout the VB series. I doubt that you saw all his innings and the way he played (do you get much coverage in Canada?). I can tell you that it wasn't scratchy. If you wanted scratchy look no further than Ganguly towards the end of that series (:p)
Yes, Laxman is selected as a batsman nothing else, your point being? A batsman is a specialist position and India doesn't need another Tendulkar/Sehwag type bowler.
P.S: I disagree with your post not just for the sake of disagreeing, but because I beleive you are wrong :)
 

V Reddy

International Debutant
My batting order would be

Ganguly
Sehwag
Laxman/Kaif
Sachin
Dravid
Yuvraj
Karthik
Pathan
Balaji
Harbhajan
Nehra

with Zaheer , Kumble and Kaif or Laxman as backup
 

alexkumar

Banned
Hi reallycrazy ,

We are agree on something else also.

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Back to cricket ,

Finally someone is thinking.

Kaif need more chances to prove his batting. Same thing applies to yuvaraj , i like yuvaraj open the batting with tendulkar.

I like sehwag in 1 position.

If any player does n't have a dual role in the team he has to be dropped unless he is extrordinary in what he does.

In that way i do not like Zaheer or Nehra ..because their batting is awful.

Kumble/Singh -- we have to stuck with these two until we find a promising bowler/batsman.

So that covers it.
 

alexkumar

Banned
Tendulkar has n't proven anything in Big match occasions. So you all stop comparing INDIA to Australia.

Australian players know their roles very well. They play within their limitation.

Indian batsman boasts and chokes. It is always the case.

Tendulkar is fine as long he is just another member of the TEAM. Whole India is making him some kind of saviour. He has n't won anything yet.

The problem with Indian fans is they are blind.

Laxman should be dropped from INDIAN ODI XI though.

I do not like to have just slow scoring batsman in ODI. It reduces strength of the TEAM , if we want to compete with AUSTRALIA.

1. Sehwag --- Batsman/Bowler/Good Fielder.
2. Tendulkar --- Batsman/Bowler/Good OutFielder
3. Ganguly ---- Batsman/Bowler/Captain
4. Dravid ---- Batsman/Wicket Keeper.
5. Yuvaraj --- Batsman/Bowler/Great Fielder
6. Kaif --- Batsman/Best Indian Fielder
7. Pathan --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
8. Balaji --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
9. Kumble --- Bowler.
10.Dinesh Karthik --- Good wicket Keeper/Good batsman/young
11.Zaheer Khan / Nehra -- Bowler.

As you see almost every batman has dual skills except LAXMAN.

Laxman is unfit for Indian TEAM unless he opens INDIAN Batting.

If not , see ya.

You can dispute now.
 

Jnr.

First Class Debutant
1. Sehwag --- Batsman/Bowler/Good Fielder.
2. Tendulkar --- Batsman/Bowler/Good OutFielder
3. Ganguly ---- Batsman/Bowler/Captain
4. Dravid ---- Batsman/Wicket Keeper.
5. Yuvaraj --- Batsman/Bowler/Great Fielder
6. Kaif --- Batsman/Best Indian Fielder
7. Pathan --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
8. Balaji --- Bowler/good low order Batsman
9. Kumble --- Bowler.
10.Dinesh Karthik --- Good wicket Keeper/Good batsman/young
11.Zaheer Khan / Nehra -- Bowler.
What, you are having 2 different wicket keepers in Dravid and Karthik, one at each end? :wacko:
And if Karthik was the wicket keeper, god forbid Dravid only having one role to play. ("As you see almost every batman has dual skills except LAXMAN.") :wacko:
The problem with Indian fans is they are blind.
You must be an Indian fan then. :D
 

Sudeep

International Captain
alexkumar said:
hi moo,

I don't know what you are smoking. We do not need another spinner/batsman combo.

We need fast bowling alrounder.

Powar sucks in batting and bowling.

It is pity we do not have not even one Fast bowling Alrounder in domestic cricket.

My ODI XI order.

Tendulkar
Ganguly
Sehwag
Yuvaraj/laxman*
Dravid
Dinesh Karthik
Kaif/laxman/or Fast bowling Alrounder*.
Balaji
Pathan
Kumble
Zaheer Khan/Nehra

Laxman has to do dual role to get into this team. Not just batting. Either he has to bowl or field better. He does neither. I will drop him from ODI XI.

Mediuam / Fast Medium bowling Alrounder - yet to find. (he just being born. hahaha. :D ).

The reason i moved Sehwag is to keep the run rate moving. When ever sehwag gets out , Team run rate slows down drammatically.

When sehwag got out , the run rate was 19/over. Then it went down to 5. 400% decrease. Hahaha!.

That is why sehwag batting down.

You can respond now.

Later

Another different batting line-up. :-O
 

Deja moo

International Captain
alexkumar said:
hi moo,

I don't know what you are smoking. We do not need another spinner/batsman combo.

We need fast bowling alrounder.

Powar sucks in batting and bowling.

It is pity we do not have not even one Fast bowling Alrounder in domestic cricket.

My ODI XI order.

Tendulkar
Ganguly
Sehwag
Yuvaraj/laxman*
Dravid
Dinesh Karthik
Kaif/laxman/or Fast bowling Alrounder*.
Balaji
Pathan
Kumble
Zaheer Khan/Nehra

Laxman has to do dual role to get into this team. Not just batting. Either he has to bowl or field better. He does neither. I will drop him from ODI XI.

Mediuam / Fast Medium bowling Alrounder - yet to find. (he just being born. hahaha. :D ).

The reason i moved Sehwag is to keep the run rate moving. When ever sehwag gets out , Team run rate slows down drammatically.

When sehwag got out , the run rate was 19/over. Then it went down to 5. 400% decrease. Hahaha!.

That is why sehwag batting down.

You can respond now.

Later
So whats wrong in picking Powar instead of this supposedly great fast bowling allrounder who hasnt even been born yet ?What are you going to do ?Leave the slot vacant and play only ten men in the team till this saviour comes along ?

If you want to build a team , do it with existing players , not by interjecting some idealized players who currently do not exist in Indian cricket .

Laxman has no dual role ? Then what is slip fielding ? Community service ?

And very nice of you to praise Kaif upto the skies and then bat him below Dinesh Karthik. :wacko:
 

delkap

State Vice-Captain
Kumble/Singh -- we have to stuck with these two until we find a promising bowler/batsman.
We are stuck with Kumble ??? Mate he the second highest wicket-taker for India, and 3rd best spinner in World (2nd best Leggie) Why on earth would you wanna change him for someone else??? Mind you his batting isn't that bad either... He can do equivalent to Gillespie..

And Harbhajan is undoubtably the best offie in India atm. Make no sense to get someone else right now even if he bats a bit better...

PS: Indian fans are not blind mate, you are !!!
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
haha hes calling me blind yet i am not even an indian supporter!?! righty...
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Yuvraj Singh and Irfan Pathan are big hitters, so they have a genuine reason to bat either within the first 15 overs or the last 10. No point sending such a player in the middle overs, where someone like Dravid, Laxman or Ganguly will be more useful. One of Yuvraj and Pathan must bat in the first 15 overs and the other, at 7, in the last 10 overs and go for the shots.

Ganguly has played spinners far better than the seamers in the recent past and even here in this match. He should bat at 6. A few good examples are the 2 70's against the English at 6 in India.

Why should Kaif be included in the team as a batsman? He's a good fielder and runner between wickets, but he is not getting enough runs to play as one. He is due a big score. He is also a good middle overs option, since his running will be crucial.
 

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