Indian Batting Order for ONE DAY!

[Sudeep]

Why not? He's sent up the order just to hit sixes and fours, like Gilchrist. In fact, he is the only bowler with genuine batting talent and he's only 19/20, so he can improve in a few years. There is insurance below and he can fall back on his bowling, so he can bat under a lot less pressure. Besides, being one of the better built players, he can hit sixes with clean cricket shots like Gilchrist or Hayden and not look to play artificial shots like Sehwag.

For Twenty20, that suggestion can be taken into consideration.

For 50 overs cricket, it's the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Aren't no. 4, 5 supposed to build an innings in that form of cricket?

 

[Arjun]

For 50 overs cricket, it's the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Aren't no. 4, 5 supposed to build an innings in that form of cricket?

They're supposed to hit sixes and fours in the first 15 overs at 3/4. I would even have Sachin at four (that's where his coach insists he should bat), since that's not a bad alternative, but there isn't really any need for that. Pathan's just supposed to hit the ball. Besides, he's least likely to be picked for Twenty20.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I'm fine with Sehwag opening in ODIs, but then again Ganguly has prospered the most at that position...

My reasoning is that Ganguly is best used at the top. Anywhere else and he's just not the same player.

 

[Arjun]

Symonds is an explosive batsman at 4/5. He responded to two quick Agarkar wickets in Perth with some hard, clean hitting.

 

[Arjun]

My reasoning is that Ganguly is best used at the top. Anywhere else and he's just not the same player.

He's not that effective these days, since they brought in the bouncer rule. He's more effective against spinners than seamers.

 

[Sudeep]

Symonds is an explosive batsman at 4/5. He responded to two quick Agarkar wickets in Perth with some hard, clean hitting.

Are you serious?


Symonds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pathan (batting)

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

He's not that effective these days, since they brought in the bouncer rule. He's more effective against spinners than seamers.

True. I live really more in hope than anything else. IMO Ganguly is a good captain, but the captaincy has ruined his batting.

 

[Sudeep]

They're supposed to hit sixes and fours in the first 15 overs at 3/4. I would even have Sachin at four (that's where his coach insists he should bat), since that's not a bad alternative, but there isn't really any need for that. Pathan's just supposed to hit the ball. Besides, he's least likely to be picked for Twenty20.

Except that when your #4 is required within the first 15 overs, you're already two down, and thus require to build the innings rather than take risks to hit big shots.

Baseless arguement...

 

[marc71178]

You have batting till 8, and the bowlers can take risks, since they have their bowling to fall back on. Unconventional, but worth a try.

Not a likely move IMO, and I wouldn't say he makes it batting till 8, more batting till 3, a slogger, then more batting.

 

[marc71178]

Symonds is an explosive batsman at 4/5. He responded to two quick Agarkar wickets in Perth with some hard, clean hitting.

Yes, but then again, Symonds is a batsman, and always has been.

Pathan is not.

 

[tooextracool]

Hi ,

After watching many one day internationals of india , i have come to conclusion india need to give chance to young players more chances by moving them up.

Kaif is afraid to go for BIG SHOTS (actually he is not that strong for big shots) as his performance is always watched carefully.

He is a quick run maker with singles. Could be very useful if he moves to no 3 position.

Yuwaraj is also same case , except he is capable of making BIG shot but afraid to lose his wicket. Promoted to be No. 4.

Dravid is No 5.

Ganguly with his BIG SHOT making (down the track , loft it to MAX) should be no 6.

Laxman is unfit for ONE DAY. (he is great TEST batsman , slow scoring of him is unfit for ONE DAY) - His spot should be filled by specialist Wicket Keeper.

Balaji should be 8 , as he can hit 6 easier than others follow him.

Pathan is 9 th

Kumble and Zakir Khan.

Sehwag
Tendulker
Kaif
Dravid
Yuwaraj
Ganguly
Laxman (if he sucks in this position, keep him only in TEST matches) or specialist Wicket Keeper (tamil Nadu Wicket Keeper - do not know his name - good batsman as well).
Balaji
Pathan
kumble
Zakir Khan

What is your opinion?

later

if you ask me the best batting side is the one that is flexible, so i would play according to te situation. sachin and sehwag should open because i think ganguly lends a little more stability to the middle order in terms of being a responsible cricketer. the rest of the side bats according to situation, yuvraj comes in if there is a need for big hitting, dravid comes in if a couple of early wickets fall. laxman should bats at 3 for most of the games though.

 

[tooextracool]

The top 4 was picked so that you have hard hitters at the top, and these four like the ball coming on the bat at a good pace. Yuvraj is likely to open in Tests, so the higher he bats, the better. Ganguly at 7 may look strange, but he can play spinners well, and he should start against them. The top order has better players of pace, and the middle order, better players of spin.

what are you talking abt?how will ganguly be more likely to play spin if he bats at 7?if he bats at 7 its more likely that he comes in during the last 10 overs and there are very few spin bowlers who bowl in that situation(gayle one of the few that comes to mind)

and the bowlers can take risks, since they have their bowling to fall back on. Unconventional, but worth a try.

yes that ever reliable indian bowling attack

 

[tooextracool]

My reasoning is that Ganguly is best used at the top. Anywhere else and he's just not the same player.

and what exactly made you come up with that?tendulkar and sehwag have been significantly better players opening than they have in any other batting position....in fact tendulkar has been appalling everywhere else.
and ganguly......

Opening 192 42.53
No. 3 23 57.74

 

[tooextracool]

Symonds is an explosive batsman at 4/5. He responded to two quick Agarkar wickets in Perth with some hard, clean hitting.

so you would have an unproven batsman come in when 2 quick wickets fall to try and counter attack?
sry but thats about the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

 

[Sudeep]

and what exactly made you come up with that?tendulkar and sehwag have been significantly better players opening than they have in any other batting position....in fact tendulkar has been appalling everywhere else.
and ganguly......

Opening 192 42.53
No. 3 23 57.74

Appalling?

 

[marc71178]

To be fair, he doesn't average over 40 at any other spot.

So I guess it is a relative appalling.

 

[Sudeep]

To be fair, he doesn't average over 40 at any other spot.

So I guess it is a relative appalling.

Not sure if TEC meant relative appalling...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

and what exactly made you come up with that?tendulkar and sehwag have been significantly better players opening than they have in any other batting position....in fact tendulkar has been appalling everywhere else.
and ganguly......

Opening 192 42.53
No. 3 23 57.74

Care to mention his hundreds at 3 coming against Namibia, Kenya and Kenya? All of them were unbeaten. Aside from that he has an average of 40.36 with a lot of starts and 5 fifties against recognized teams in 20 innings. The man has 19 centuries opening and 4 against relatively poor opposition (Zimbabwe and once against Kenya).

 

[tooextracool]

Care to mention his hundreds at 3 coming against Namibia, Kenya and Kenya? All of them were unbeaten. Aside from that he has an average of 40.36 with a lot of starts and 5 fifties against recognized teams in 20 innings. The man has 19 centuries opening and 4 against relatively poor opposition (Zimbabwe and once against Kenya).

and if you eliminate his innings against kenya ,b'desh and zimbabwe while opening you will find that he has a lower average there too. regardless the fact is that sehwag and tendulkar have significantly lower averages batting anywhere outside the openers slot while ganguly seems to be doing just fine.

 

[V Reddy]

and what exactly made you come up with that?tendulkar and sehwag have been significantly better players opening than they have in any other batting position....in fact tendulkar has been appalling everywhere else.
and ganguly......

Opening 192 42.53
No. 3 23 57.74

I feel India's best batting order was in that Natwest series and in WI where Tendulkar batted at 4. Ganguly's batting position is just a sacrifice for Tendulkar. He is just not comfortable there imo though he has a good avg there due to his good knocks against minnows. Those down the track lofted sixers , drives have become a rarity since he has started batting lower down the order.