PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
Sorry meant 1st and 2nd.Only Pune was bad in 2017. Rest were all good pitches that just aided spin more than seam bowling.
3rd was flat.
4th was real good.
Sorry meant 1st and 2nd.Only Pune was bad in 2017. Rest were all good pitches that just aided spin more than seam bowling.
lol climate change is real but using that as a reason to excuse eng v funnyIs Breitbart your primary source of news?
2017 dharamshala pitch aided pace more than spin initiallyOnly Pune was bad in 2017. Rest were all good pitches that just aided spin more than seam bowling.
2023 think only 3rd test was bad, surprisingly India lost that in Indore.hardly. there are a few turners here and there but most are pretty good.
the only raging turners since 2015 i would say are
2015 SA 1st and 3rd
2017 Aus 1st and 2nd
2021 Eng 3rd which was more due to the ball
2023 Aus 2nd and 3rd
That's 7 in a decade.
Others are standard Indian pitches, some even flat where Indian batsmen have racked runs plenty.
2016 NZ, 2016 Eng, 2019 SA, 2021 NZ, 2024 Eng got very fair pitches.
you have to watch those series in Eng and SA to know the truth behind that line. Only Australia among SENA teams have been producing fair pitches conducive to both pace and spin. I will agree that I am wrong when the opposition spinner takes more wickets than Ashwin or Jadeja in any test in those Eng/SA/NZ series.I assume this is tongue in cheek?
In terms of poor pitches, I think Mohali 2015 was a rank turner, not necessarily poor. So, Nagpur 2015, Pune 2017 and Indore 2023 were the really poor ones. Maybe include Ahmedabad 2021 vs England ( pink ball test) as well.Yeah of that list by PL, I would say the tracks against RSA in 2015, Pune in 2017 and Indore in 2023 were the only poor pitches we have dished out. 4 or 5 tracks in almost 10 years is pretty normal IMO.
Australia don't make fair pitches either. Spinners average well over 40 since 2015. The lowest in a series they've averaged is 30.you have to watch those series in Eng and SA to know the truth behind that line. Only Australia among SENA teams have been producing fair pitches conducive to both pace and spin. I will agree that I am wrong when the opposition spinner takes more wickets than Ashwin or Jadeja in any test in those Eng/SA/NZ series.
One question I have is what about pitches like 2021 England Chennai 1st Test? Are they bad pitches, and if so why/why not?In terms of poor pitches, I think Mohali 2015 was a rank turner, not necessarily poor. So, Nagpur 2015, Pune 2017 and Indore 2023 were the really poor ones. Maybe include Ahmedabad 2021 vs England ( pink ball test) as well.
Poor pitches are those where either scoring runs is almost impossible or picking wickets is almost impossible.One question I have is what about pitches like 2021 England Chennai 1st Test? Are they bad pitches, and if so why/why not?
I as well don't think the Chennai pitch was poor, but rating pitches like that does raises some questions. Like, was the SA pitch of the 2nd Test of the last tour not poor since Markram got a ton?Poor pitches are those where either scoring runs is almost impossible or picking wickets is almost impossible.
In Chennai 1st test, Root got 200 but nobody else hit a ton. The game had a result, so it is a good pitch. No point discussing whatsoever.
A lot of bad pitches end in a decisive result, assuming draws don't count as a result. It can't be as simple as this, else Pune 2017 is a fine pitch because Smith made a 100.In Chennai 1st test, Root got 200 but nobody else hit a ton. The game had a result, so it is a good pitch. No point discussing whatsoever.
Said the major change for England was covered pitches.lol climate change is real but using that as a reason to excuse eng v funny
I mean it was not about Root getting a double ton. Even if he didn't, it was a typical subcontinent wicket. Very good for batting on day 1 and day 2 and it detoriated from day 3 onwards. Toss played a role but I won't call it a poor pitch.I as well don't think the Chennai pitch was poor, but rating pitches like that does raises some questions. Like, was the SA pitch of the 2nd Test of the last tour not poor since Markram got a ton?
Smith got a lot of chances actually to get a 100. And even on a bad pitch, there could be a chance that a batter takes the momentum in favour in a low scoring game after catches being dropped and frustrates the bowler with a game changing knock.A lot of bad pitches end in a decisive result, assuming draws don't count as a result. It can't be as simple as this, else Pune 2017 is a fine pitch because Smith made a 100.
you have to watch those series in Eng and SA to know the truth behind that line. Only Australia among SENA teams have been producing fair pitches conducive to both pace and spin. I will agree that I am wrong when the opposition spinner takes more wickets than Ashwin or Jadeja in any test in those Eng/SA/NZ series.
That shouldn't matter right? It should be about how the ball behaves more than if a player does well. Pune/Cape Town/Johannesburg/etc were still bad pitches.Smith got a lot of chances actually to get a 100. And even on a bad pitch, there could be a chance that a batter takes the momentum in favour in a low scoring game after catches being dropped and frustrates the bowler with a game changing knock.