All Time Sub Cont XI

[deeps]

Saeed Anwar (Pak)
Sunil Gavaskar (Ind)
Rahul Dravid (Ind)
Sachin Tendulkar (Ind)
Javed Miandad (Pak)
Kumar Sangakkara (SL)
Imran Khan (Pak)
Wasim Akram (Pak)
Waqar Younis (Pak)
Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)
Bishin Bedi (Ind)
12th man: Sreesanth :P

5* Pakistanis
4* Indians
2* SL

 

[deeps]

kapil will not be in subcontinental elevens necessarily just as a bowler, he was a world class allrounder, remember? the only other bowler who would challenge him for a place from india would be kumble(even considering chandra, bedi, prasanna, venkat et al) and he would be beaten out because of kapil's additional qualities(brilliant lower-order batting, electric fielding)....the pakistani bowlers i would rate above him are khan, akram and waqar and the only lankan bowler above him for me is murali...and the teams that i chose have these bowlers in addition to kapil...

I don't think Kapil Dev would be in the team. He is brilliant, but bowling is his strong suite. If we have the two W's, and Imran Khan, that's 3 world class quick bowlers. So there's no point adding another imo, and you're better of going the extra batsman or the extra spinner. That is why i went with Bishin Bedi over Kapil Dev. Quite simply, Kapil Dev would only be given the ball after the two w's and imran. I think 3 genuine quicks enough unless the pitch really warrants it.

Plus there's 3 all rounders in that team of excellent quality, in Kumar Sangakkara, Wasim Akram, and Imran Khan.

Kumar Sangakkara's batting is far greater than anyother keeper from the sub continent, except until recently maybe Dhoni and Akmal. However they haven't been around for long enough imo. His keeping has also markedly improved and so he got the nod.

 

[FRAZ]

Shoaib Akhtar is criminally underrated by a lot of you, it seems to me.

Weired = yes he is
Fashion sense = should be shot
Swearings = top notch
Fitness= not in his control
Hated in the 1/5 of the world = Definately
Ego= What else
Weired habbits (like keeping actress's photos in the Vallet)= Yes
Fights with the team members= yes
trouble with the media = yes
Hated with passion in the forums of the lovely people = yes
Hated in the parts who dont have any of his speed = yes
gets angry at the Arch RIVAL'S EX CAPTAIN = YES
Bad Record = Yes (Not good as his potential)
BUT
Knows Cricket= Yes
Bowls with pace= more than any one in the history
Delivers when needed= Atleast tries
Gets good wickets= yes (Tendulkar and Dravid were the classic and the match saving ones and way better than the ball of the century huh )
Bouncers= timely and most effective
Plays against India= With passion and thrill
Batsmen= Afraid and avoid facing him
Creates = Panic
Speciality= One of his kind
Gets wickets= Most of the time when matters

Now that is what I have been crying about many a times . I mean some people just cannot digest him and I do not know why . Why in the name of hell .If they will find one medium level pacer then there are going to be threads made for him . And the medium level cricketer will become devta .
Shoaib Akhtar is in my team . And in any team and that is for sure. Even Australia would like to have a player of his class.
Offcourse Controversial but much much much much better choice than RP Singh ... For goddness sake..
I mean on some forums RP singh is going to be much much better than Shoaib ...
What are we here for ..I think CRICKET .
And in Cricket "Shoaib deserves to play". And mind you at his peek he is even better than Wasim and Kapil Dev (And now do not kill me for that )...
I mean on a flat pitch against a great batting line up and against the greatest of the batsmen in their home , he took those two BIG BIG BIG wickets .How many bowlers could have done that .. HUH was even Kapil capable enough to do that or Aaqib Javed was expected to do that. I mean some times I think that some people offcourse know the little itsi bitsis of the English and can speak and write and fold the English sentences in a very good and a clever way but knowing a language doesn't mean that you are speaking the truth .
Shoaib is a true showman and If some other country is going to have him then its a fortunate thing . He is a great bowler PERIOD

 

[Anil]

Shoaib Akhtar is criminally underrated by a lot of you, it seems to me.

exactly what has he done to be put in an all-time xi again?

 

[Anil]

I don't think Kapil Dev would be in the team. He is brilliant, but bowling is his strong suite. If we have the two W's, and Imran Khan, that's 3 world class quick bowlers. So there's no point adding another imo, and you're better of going the extra batsman or the extra spinner. That is why i went with Bishin Bedi over Kapil Dev. Quite simply, Kapil Dev would only be given the ball after the two w's and imran. I think 3 genuine quicks enough unless the pitch really warrants it.

Plus there's 3 all rounders in that team of excellent quality, in Kumar Sangakkara, Wasim Akram, and Imran Khan.

Kumar Sangakkara's batting is far greater than anyother keeper from the sub continent, except until recently maybe Dhoni and Akmal. However they haven't been around for long enough imo. His keeping has also markedly improved and so he got the nod.

that's your opinion, fine....but variety for variety's sake is of little value....and kapil is the best indian bowler, the only challenge coming from kumble....and as i explained in my previous post, he adds much more that bowling capabilities to the team....as for sangakkara, he may be an excellent batsman, but as a wicketkeeper, the subcontinent has not seen finer, more durable, brilliant ones than bari or kirmani(lateef was excellent and s.vishwanath had the potential to become great but he wasted himself away)....and in an all-time xi, imo a wicketkeeper doesn't need to be an allrounder, he needs to be a specialist...there are enough classy batsmen, bowlers and allrounders around him already....

 

[FRAZ]

My team

Gavaskar
Tendulkar (Want him to open)
Dravid (One down and who else)
Zaheer Abbas
Inzamam Ul Haq
Sangakara wk
Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Anil Kumble
Shoaib Akhtar

Kapil Dev 12th man (sorry but thats how it is )
Beat that
Same team to be kept for ODIs ....

 

[silentstriker]

My team

Gavaskar
Tendulkar (Want him to open)
Dravid (One down and who else)
Zaheer Abbas
Inzamam Ul Haq
Sangakara wk
Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Anil Kumble
Shoaib Akhtar

Kapil Dev 12th man (sorry but thats how it is )
Beat that
Same team to be kept for ODIs ....

Akhtar cannot be in an all time anything until he stops getting injured. As it is, Kapil would play 90% of the time anyway.

 

[FRAZ]

Akhtar cannot be in an all time anything until he stops getting injured. As it is, Kapil would play 90% of the time anyway.

Ok

 

[Hugh]

Akhtar cannot be in an all time anything until he stops getting injured. As it is, Kapil would play 90% of the time anyway.

Exactly. If I'm correct, Kapil never missed a Test Match due to injury even once in his long long career.

Shoaib on the other hand has missed almost as many matches as he has played.
If Shoaib were playing for the Sub-continental XI against a ROW XI in a 5 match series, he would play the first two, contract an injury half-way through the first innings in the third, and miss the last two.

 

[FRAZ]

HUH How about not even chosing Kapil Dev cuz he is old and cannot play international cricket any more .
The Thing is WHAT IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE ...........
Trying to drag the personal hatered once again ..
The thing is what IF THE PLAYERS ARE NOT RETIRED , If the players are available , If the players are ok to be picked up then who will you prefer ..HUH
Bla BLA bla huh , Kapil better .. Did I say ... HUH , Pathetic twists and turns

 

[Hugh]

HUH How about not even chosing Kapil Dev cuz he is old and cannot play international cricket any more .

Explain your list then, genius. Imran, Abbas, Gavaskar etc are still active, right ?

The Thing is WHAT IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE ...........
Trying to drag the personal hatered once again ..
The thing is what IF THE PLAYERS ARE NOT RETIRED , If the players are available , If the players are ok to be picked up then who will you prefer ..HUH
Bla BLA bla huh , Kapil better .. Did I say ... HUH , Pathetic twists and turns

Did you hit your head on something ? Are you ****ed off that someone mentions something you want ignored ? I prefer a player who would actually play most of the games, instead of one who won't. You got a problem with that, deal with it yourself. Go lift a 120 pounder or something.

 

[FRAZ]

Explain your list then, genius. Imran, Abbas, Gavaskar etc are still active, right ?



Did you hit your head on something ? Are you ****ed off that someone mentions something you want ignored ? I prefer a player who would actually play most of the games, instead of one who won't. You got a problem with that, deal with it yourself. Go lift a 120 pounder or something.

Alright Alright btw hehe I can lift way more alright ... Calm down do not swear please !!!
Calm down my friend . You want Kapil in , You got it .. Dont swear please ,We are family men here. Kapil in who is much faster , much quicker , has much better strike rate than Shoaib Akhtar ... Happy ..

 

[Hugh]

Alright Alright btw hehe I can lift way more alright ... Calm down do not swear please !!!
Calm down my friend . You want Kapil in , You got it .. Dont swear please ,We are family men here. Kapil in who is much faster , much quicker , has much better strike rate than Shoaib Akhtar ... Happy ..

Don't forget "more likely to show up at the ground" too.

 

[FRAZ]

Don't forget "more likely to show up at the ground" too.

You What ..... Ok Calm down Calm down . Dont swear please ..Just a game .Please .Its not life please.........
Kapil In .Ok .. Calm Down .Please. Its Alright ... Its Alright .Dont Panic he is in . much faster you know . Much better length you know .Much better strike rate you know !!!!!Calm down dont swear ..Life is good

 

[Hugh]

Yes, btw, is it a common practice where you are from to compare all-rounders with quicks ?

 

[FRAZ]

BTW I guess Saqlain Mushtaq had one of the best strike rates in the ODIs and may well fit in the ODI eleven . guy had some good talent . Unfortunate he was ,,,,, poor knee...

 

[Hugh]

Saqlain is a contender for the ODI side. Would be interesting to see if he would replace Murali though in case only one spinner were played.

 

[honestbharani]

Saqlain is a contender for the ODI side. Would be interesting to see if he would replace Murali though in case only one spinner were played.

Saqlain bats better than Murali but Murali at his best was the better fielder of the two. Hard choice, that.

 

[FRAZ]

For tests I think Murali & Kumble are debateable but I guess Saqlain has much better ODI record than that of Murali so in ODI if I will pick any one of these three then Saqlain for sure. But cuz I like to have only one spinner in the team so Kumble is what I always like to have in the test team . He does not go for the conditions or the turn of the wicket . he just does his job with venom and with the heart .

 

[phaniar]

1. Hanif
2. Gawaskar
3. Dravid
4. Miandad
5. Inzi
6. Imran (C)
7. Wasim
8. Waqar
9. Bari
10. Qadir
11. Bedi