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    Ian Botham vs Keith Miller

    Botham was only top quality for about 5 years. Miller played about double this, and had WWII shortening his career.
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    Peak Botham vs Peak Sobers

    Sobers for the length of his peak.
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    *Official* South Africa Tour of the West Indies, AUGUST 6th to 26th, 2024-- 2 TESTS & 3 T20Is

    Even by Duke's standards, the ball hardly seemed to age.
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    You have claimed revisionism as some heavy negative countless times whenever anyone has a high opinion of Kallis, but your own opinion is revisionism
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    Greg Chappell vs Allan Border

    Why does Border not get the flak Shiv does for batting for his average? Similar batting position, SR, and number of NOs. IDK if they were actually similar, but I've seen quite a few scorecards of Border making a 50 or so NO at a stupidly low SR.
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    Third greatest left handed test batsman

    Better to use the same language in the OP and title for this reason. It's 2 different questions being posed when it comes to someone like Pollock, and maybe Border too.
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    Zaheer Khan vs Mike Procter

    Not that I think we should put a guy without a real test career in the Imran/Hadlee class, but he did do well playing for Rhodesia in RSA domestic, which was not a spot for pace. IDK how much spin/pace he was bowling at the time. Might not be evidence of him being a top level domestic quick in...
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    Rahul Dravid vs Shaun Pollock

    His 210 catches a match work out to 1.28 per match. He may have taken 90% of catches. If someone takes 80% of what he did, that puts them at 72% catch rate, which is fairly poor. That's 0.26 extra catches a match. At the Indian bowling average for his career of 36.7 runs a wicket, that is 9.4...
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    Rahul Dravid vs Shaun Pollock

    Dravid was more rocks and diamonds. There's a tendency to consider this kind of player more impactful. When they contribute big, it's more apparent. When they fail big, there is a temptation to say that team success depends on them. And we almost never call a performance match losing, even if a...
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    Rahul Dravid vs Shaun Pollock

    I think saying eveyone else is underestimating the value without providing and estimation of value yourself is a cop out. Those calculations seem reasonable to me, which would mean people are sleeping some value. But not to the degree some people are sleeping on the value of lower order batting...
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    Ravichandran Ashwin vs Hedley Verity

    The info button usually means someone thinks you gave given good info already. I've very occasionally seen it used as a post giving insight onto a person's perspective.
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    Rahul Dravid vs Shaun Pollock

    No my post. It was about Simpson saving 1X runs a game. Someone else posted a calculation that suggested simlar value at the same time. You didn't seem to have an issue with the numbers. Which are lower than the numbers a bowling AR is bringing.
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    Rahul Dravid vs Shaun Pollock

    You liked a posted that had some paper napkin math that showed that this wasn't the case at all.
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    Everyone gets out cheaply early. Bradman reckoned this was unavoidable and bats needed to cash in more when set. Bradman is out for less than 20 in 22/80 innings. His average is so high because he scored 118 runs per innings in the remainder. He almost never gets opportunities to go big, and his...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    That maths seems more than a little optimistic. He needs to score 40+ runs an innings. The average total partnership runs for 8, 9, and 10 he was involved in were all below 40. Batting with the tail, you either try to maximise team runs by taking chances, pushing for singles and declining them...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    What do you think Bradman would average at 11?
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    I'm happy putting Imran over Ambrose, whether cutting only his non-bowling tests or more. That's mostly a style preference. Engineering Imrans record by cutting the games 14 games that best suit him still leaves him at a 22 average and 25 away, with a Steyn WPM. His home record gets ridiculous...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    Let's stop the pendantry on Sobers. He and Kallis would both be bad picks as specialist bowlers for pretty much any team based on their actual career bowling records. Sobers is a less bad pick. Any assumption on how they would have bowled as specialists applies to both, but more so to Kallis. I...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    What team in the world currently would you pick a record like Sobers for long term? Counting primary as secondary does not work. You know I give credit to Imran when it makes any sense. It doesn't make sense in this context. He averaged 39.6 RPT in his first 74 tests. This figure would drop a...
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    Jacques Kallis vs Jack Hobbs

    A 22 average bowler is a better player than a low 30s averaging bat, irrespective of who makes the team more. All getting in shows is that you need to pick a team around role even more than quality. There isn't an AT team to get into. It's hypothetical. Missing a team that could never have...

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