Australian Doom and Gloom Thread

[Starfighter]

Can we not make this thread needlessly spicy please?

 

[Shri]

Shri

She’s an airhead who owes her position due to her gender

There’s lots of decent female commentators

She’s not one of them

different commentators bring different things to the table

good analysis, charisma and everything else in between

if sanjay manjrekar can have a job, she can too

 

[TheJediBrah]

different commentators bring different things to the table

boobs?

 

[Flem274*]

social you called simon "bruised knees overseas" doull good the other night, so you can't begrudge a pretty face.

 

[Spikey]

what the **** is social going on about. why he is attacking Melinda Farrell for literally no reason. She just posted the statement sent around to the reporters. One of the more brazen misogynist posts we'll see around here

 

[honestbharani]

"great success in One-Day, Test and T20 cricket"

Disappointed he did not call it "elite success" tbh.

 

[honestbharani]

different commentators bring different things to the table

good analysis, charisma and everything else in between

if sanjay manjrekar can have a job, she can too

I dont think she is even a commentator per se, is she? More a cricket journalist who does some shows and interviews... I mean I dont think she is particularly insightful or enriches any coverage but she is pretty harmless really. At least she is not trying to make a quick buck with hot takes. She usually seems to look at stuff from a more of a common person perspective and that is the least of the issues with cricket analysts or journalists right now.

 

[Shri]

I dont think she is even a commentator per se, is she? More a cricket journalist who does some shows and interviews... I mean I dont think she is particularly insightful or enriches any coverage but she is pretty harmless really. At least she is not trying to make a quick buck with hot takes. She usually seems to look at stuff from a more of a common person perspective and that is the least of the issues with cricket analysts or journalists right now.

yeah i guess you could say that i meant people who talk about the game in general instead of the word commentator

 

[Teja.]

I don't think she's some incredible talent or something but I greatly enjoyed her daily round up youtube show with Bharat Sunderasan during the India tour to Australia earlier this year. That is more than I can say about 95% of cricket media personalities, male or female.

 

[quincywagstaff]

Questions need to be asked as to why he was hired in the first place. Surely they knew what he was like, from memory we all did.

total FRAUD

Yep, all the stories we're hearing and reading now seem totally in character.

I remember Dean Jones writing a decade ago when Langer was Oz batting coach how when he wrote an article critical of Australia's batting, on the morning of the Test match when Jones was on the ground doing media work Langer confronted him about the article in an abrasive manner.

 

[quincywagstaff]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427893808235048960

"great success in One-Day, Test and T20 cricket"

The Test cricket claim is pretty remarkable one. Last summer's India defeat imo Australia's poorest home series defeat since England 86/87, especially the deciding Gabba Test.

 

[SteveNZ]

Coincidentally, I was watching The Test last night - the last episode. Making them watch the last partnership of the Headingley Test was so quintessential Langer. Absolutely unnecessary horse ****. Then he gets in the middle with Steve Waugh the following week and says he's had his best coaching week of his life.

That side needs a calm, measured influence to get the best out of itself and to consistently be where they should be, which is on top of the world. It's never going to get that with a Tony Robbins wanna-be, jumped up little karate mixed with mindfulness guru like Langer.

 

[Starfighter]

I remember Dean Jones writing a decade ago when Langer was Oz batting coach how when he wrote an article critical of Australia's batting, on the morning of the Test match when Jones was on the ground doing media work Langer confronted him about the article in an abrasive manner.

That's one thing quite apparent about Langer, which is that he is far too sensitive to criticism. As head coach you're going to get a lot of crap thrown at you, justifiable or not. Such responses simply aren't suitable. It goes hand in hand with him being overemotional in general.

 

[Shady Slim]

alright whatever you think about langer though, people who didn't think he should be sacked before now thinking so on the back of mickey mouse t20 series are pagliacci grandi, for sure. for spikey and co who wanted him sacked prior, yeah, fair play, but thinking that t20is matter says more about those that want langer sacked after them than it does about him

 

[Starfighter]

I've always wanted him sacked, so whatever. Disagree with what you say, I think the opposition has been building for some time and accelerated after the India series, the T20 series has just given an outlet.

 

[TheJediBrah]

alright whatever you think about langer though, people who didn't think he should be sacked before now thinking so on the back of mickey mouse t20 series are pagliacci grandi, for sure. for spikey and co who wanted him sacked prior, yeah, fair play, but thinking that t20is matter says more about those that want langer sacked after them than it does about him

I don't think that's anyone. It's just an excuse to start talking about it again.

 

[Shady Slim]

I've always wanted him sacked, so whatever. Disagree with what you say, I think the opposition has been building for some time and accelerated after the India series, the T20 series has just given an outlet.

no you don't, in fact the rest of the message (saying that you've wanted him sacked the entire time) falls within the purview of what ive said is acceptable

 

[Starfighter]

no you don't, in fact the rest of the message (saying that you've wanted him sacked the entire time) falls within the purview of what ive said is acceptable

I'm disagreeing with this bit:

alright whatever you think about langer though, people who didn't think he should be sacked before now thinking so on the back of mickey mouse t20 series are pagliacci grandi, for sure. for spikey and co who wanted him sacked prior, yeah, fair play, but thinking that t20is matter says more about those that want langer sacked after them than it does about him

 

[Shady Slim]

I'm disagreeing with this bit:

intl t20 is such a joke and anyone who thinks it should factor in on how we evaluate coaches, equally, is also a joke imo

 

[SteveNZ]

intl t20 is such a joke and anyone who thinks it should factor in on how we evaluate coaches, equally, is also a joke imo

Add my vote to this side of the opinion. I have no problem with T20Is being a thing, because revenue, but you hang your hat on ODIs and Tests as an international coach (unless we get to the point, which we should, of dedicated T20I/franchise coaches).

Langer is a sub-par coach because Australia bombed out of the World Cup, lost to India B at home and a number of players have gone backwards under his 'guidance'. Strange selections in T20Is and the increasing displeasure (if it is to be believed, and it's easy to do so) coming out of the changing room adds to that as well. He's got longer rope than Mickey Arthur because of who he is, and more than Darren Lehmann because there hasn't been an out and out scandal.

To me, if you are a former Test batsman of some note, if you're any chop as a coach that area of the game should be progressing. It's regressing.

Will be interesting as to whether a poor result in the T20 World Cup sees him out on his arse, or whether in the more likely scenario, he survives and then gets a free ride through a home Ashes series against a mud England side. He'd have to be pretty intense and have guys completely give up on him to not get through past that.