Australian Doom and Gloom Thread

[TheJediBrah]

Gilchrist is a genuine pansy. Don't think I've ever seen him say anything negative about anyone let alone someone he played with and knows well

 

[CricAddict]

Quite a few doom and gloom threads. Looks like we can have it's own sub-forum.

 

[Chubb]

(give us back the Sack Langer thread: http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/threads/sack-langer.84043/page-10)

Grumpy Coach: How Langer’s volatile approach is wearing Australia down

In 2019, chief cricket writer Malcolm Conn spent three months with the Australian team as acting media manager. He learnt to stay out of Justin Langer’s way.

www.smh.com.au

Sack Langer

Jeez. If Langer is annoying the most abrasive, one-eyed, aggressively Australian cricket journalist out there he must be terrible.

I've been in comms roles supervising, shall we say volatile people, who behaved in a similar way - jumping at insignificant things, erratic reactions, mood swings. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't Malcolm Conn!

 

[Starfighter]

So it seems Langer doesn't offer anything technical, or at least nothing that works, and doesn't offer a stable team environment.

What does he offer (that's positive)?

 

[Nintendo]

So it seems Langer doesn't offer anything technical, or at least nothing that works, and doesn't offer a stable team environment.

What does he offer (that's positive)?

Another season of the test

 

[TheJediBrah]

Representation for the gnome community

 

[Shri]

They have very, very little to do with supporters outside waving to them as they leave the field after a win.

after a win lol

 

[Spikey]

“I don’t give a rats about domestic cricket.” sack this WAnker, smh.

 

[honestbharani]

What does he offer (that's positive)?

Elite Honesty

 

[social]

Langer obviously has some pretty influential supporters

Problem is that there’s plenty who allegedly want him gone as well so doesn’t bode well for team harmony

Reality is that he was incredibly lucky to survive after losing to India

 

[Shri]

Reality is that he was incredibly lucky to survive after losing to India

first or second time

pls be specific

 

[Spark]

Langer obviously has some pretty influential supporters

Problem is that there’s plenty who allegedly want him gone as well so doesn’t bode well for team harmony

Reality is that he was incredibly lucky to survive after losing to India

There's a pretty obvious and concerted campaign within the Fairfax papers (or, at least, their sources) to get him out. Interesting times.

So it seems Langer doesn't offer anything technical, or at least nothing that works, and doesn't offer a stable team environment.

What does he offer (that's positive)?

It's amazing the degree to which his previous stint as batting coach - which neatly coincided with a period when an exceptionally well-credentialed, stacked-on-paper batting lineup was regularly putting up double digit scores - has been memory-holed.

 

[morgieb]

first or second time

pls be specific

First time at least had the excuse key players were missing.

While that also happened the second time….it wasn’t for the team that Langer was coaching.

 

[Spark]

first or second time

pls be specific

India were the flat out better side on paper and played very well with basically a full strength team in 18-19 against a depleted Aus team.

20-21... not so much. That was basically a full strength Aus side that massively underperformed.

 

[morgieb]

Man have all our coaches since Buck sucked. Nielsen was useless, Arthur couldn't get key players on side, Lehmann was a racist **** who played to Australia's worst instincts, and now Langer is a pig-headed arsehole who can't work with key players and offers nothing but trite cliches.

 

[honestbharani]

Man have all our coaches since Buck sucked. Nielsen was useless, Arthur couldn't get key players on side, Lehmann was a racist **** who played to Australia's worst instincts, and now Langer is a pig-headed arsehole who can't work with key players and offers nothing but trite cliches.

Elite Wastemen

 

[WICFan]

Who would be Langer's replacement?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Who would be Langer's replacement?

I can't imagine finding a good one will be easy. Even before Covid the travel requirements were a barrier for the better options, and it's 100x worse now

 

[Line and Length]

It would appear that it is journalists who have problems with Langer ... far more than one or two players.

 

[Starfighter]

It's amazing the degree to which his previous stint as batting coach - which neatly coincided with a period when an exceptionally well-credentialed, stacked-on-paper batting lineup was regularly putting up double digit scores - has been memory-holed.

Yep. We weren't necessarily scoring less than we do now - though fair to say pitches have gotten more difficult in the mean time - but the inability togged the best of what should have been a good lineup was palpable as it s now.

Coincidently Troy Cooley was also bowling coach then when he oversaw Johnson's fall from promising to generally terrible and one-length short bowling was the order of the day, like it is now.

It's like England's batting selections - trying proven failures again gets you the same results.