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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand

roseboy64

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BOUKMAN said:
On the contrary I think it was this knock which lost the match for us (Chandepaul's ineptitude and the New Zealand lower order batting aside)...Morton is one of those batsmen who seemingly doesn't have the ability to change gears...A good number three would have come in and consolidated for a while before trying to seize the initiative...He was stuck in neutral the whole time...He should know that the West Indies need to post colossal totals if they are to have any chance of beating NZ...
While that may be true about acceleration if he hadn't stayed out there, Hinds may not have been able to build his innings.

P.S Welcome to the forum.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
roseboy64 said:
Very few people use that word over here you know. If anything, "Rawl Lewis is da bomb,man." Don't believe everything you see on TV.
I thought that when West Indians said "man" it sounded like "mon".

Maybe I should have put "Rawl Lewis is da mon, mon"

Don't know if anyone would get it. Anyway, we can't talk! We say "Fush and Chups".
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Nope dude. Just the ones on the chronic. If I didn't pay attention there I'd have been wondering what Fush and Chups were. :huh:
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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BOUKMAN said:
It would be nice to see Dwayne Smith pused up the order a bit...I fear that they are turning him into another "Ricardo Powell". I so fondly remember his debut century in South Africa, when his offside play was just as majestic as his much bally hooed legside play. Now, however, he is quickly becoming a late-inning slogger. Superb ball striker...I hope they don't ruin him too... Most exciting young batsman in the world me thinks! BTW, why is Runako Morton even playing for the West Indies? 39 off 93 balls?:-O
You what? Dwayne Smith is worse than Ricardo Powell as things stand. At least Powell has more than one shot. Smith generally tries to hit everything to the legside and that's why half-decent bowlers can work him over clinically. That's not something that he's learnt since entering international cricket. The fact that he averaged under 25 in FC cricket when he entered the Test side is an indication that he's always been a slogger. That's why that debut knock was so amazing - it was so un-Dwayne Smith.

Until he learns to build innings and hit selectively, he shouldn't be used in any capacity at international cricket other than a death specialist. Most talented Windies player since Lara IMO.

Not seen him properly on this tour yet...perhaps he's changed...doubtful though, considering he was throwing away his wicket for Barbados about a month back.

Interesting story... the reason Dwayne Smith plays the way he does is because the ground he played club cricket on is so small that when you hit sixes, it counted as four.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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My 3rd ODI team:

CH Gayle
D Ganga
RR Sarwan - more comfortable at international level, and therefore more capable of scoring quickly from the outset, which is what a number 3 needs to do
RS Morton - can graft from this position
S Chanderpaul (C)
WW Hinds
DR Smith
D Ramdin (wk)
IDR Bradshaw
DC Butler
FH Edwards

SS: RN Lewis

The problem with Dwayne Smith opening atm is that I don't see Gayle or Ganga doing particularly well elsewhere. I think that Ganga must open the batting as long as he plays ODI cricket. He can bat in the middle order in Tests.

At best, I'd have Smith in at 3 with Sarwan at 5 and Chanders at 6. Morton shouldn't be too low down the order as he's still not settled at this level. Sarwan was once one of the best finishers in the game, so batting at 5 shouldn't be a problem. I don't like Hinds at 7 though, so I may bump him ahead of Chanderpaul. Chanders (in form) is one of the most versatile batsmen in ODI cricket and can score quickly and itelligently from the outset if required.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
BOUKMAN said:
On the contrary I think it was this knock which lost the match for us (Chandepaul's ineptitude and the New Zealand lower order batting aside)...Morton is one of those batsmen who seemingly doesn't have the ability to change gears...A good number three would have come in and consolidated for a while before trying to seize the initiative...He was stuck in neutral the whole time...He should know that the West Indies need to post colossal totals if they are to have any chance of beating NZ...
Without his knock there wasn't even a platform to get to 200 from.

Had he played the way everyone else did, NZ could easily have been chasing 120.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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IndianByHeart said:
I don't think this WI team will be able to make much of an impact in the comming WC 2007 on its own home ground.Its unfortunate to see WI struggling to find quality performers for their team.
Bravo, Ramdin, Bradshaw, Lara, Chanderpaul - quality.
If Gayle, Sarwan and Hinds get it right, as they've all proven they certainly can with some consistency, I don't see what's the huge question of WI potential in ODI cricket. AFAIC, most of the problem right now is psychological. Getting caught in a losing streak is deceptively easy, and getting out of it is extremely difficult.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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marc71178 said:
Without his knock there wasn't even a platform to get to 200 from.

Had he played the way everyone else did, NZ could easily have been chasing 120.
Spot on. Chanderpaul came out and played the aggressive role at the other end and was unfortunately dismissed. Hinds then came and was positive immediately. Morton's role was to anchor the innings and when he tried to push on toward the end, he was out, but that happens to the best of them at times.
 

BOUKMAN

Cricket Spectator
roseboy64 said:
While that may be true about acceleration if he hadn't stayed out there, Hinds may not have been able to build his innings.

P.S Welcome to the forum.
I respect & acknowledge everthing that everyone is saying, but I just do not feel that Runako Morton should be the West Indies' no.3...I hope, however, that he is able to make more of a believer out of me in the coming matches...

BTW, thanks for the welcome!
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
There is talk that if NZ win at Christchurch then Shane Bond, Daniel Vettori, Brendon McCullum & possibly Scott Styris being rested for the remainder of the series with Peter McGlashan coming in to keep, Kyle Mills replacing Bond and Patel stepping up as the spin option.

It looks like NZ are following what Australia did. I guess they're trying to build a bit of depth and create more options with the World Cup approaching.
 

Blaze

Banned
Tim said:
There is talk that if NZ win at Christchurch then Shane Bond, Daniel Vettori, Brendon McCullum & possibly Scott Styris being rested for the remainder of the series with Peter McGlashan coming in to keep, Kyle Mills replacing Bond and Patel stepping up as the spin option.

It looks like NZ are following what Australia did. I guess they're trying to build a bit of depth and create more options with the World Cup approaching.

And Taylor coming in for Styris. Fingers crossed.
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
Oh yeah, forgot that one! lol.

I have mixed emotions about it all. I'd like to see guys like Taylor & McGlashan play but you don't want to see wholesale changes. I suppose these guys have got to get some game time soon if NZ want them to be reliable back-ups for the World Cup.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
Tim said:
It looks like NZ are following what Australia did. I guess they're trying to build a bit of depth and create more options with the World Cup approaching.
A. I don't think we are good enough! Even against the Windies. Look what happens when you take teams for granted. Queenstown. 4-1 and 5-0 look alot better than 3-2.

B. Do these guys actually want the time off? For one, every ODI they miss would cost them a couple of thousand bucks each! Maybe they want the practise. Plus for the likes of Bond and Vettori, get on a roll, get some wickets. Get some domination over the batsman leading into the tests.

C. Scott Styris needs some time in the middle. Can no one else see this?!!!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tim said:
Oh yeah, forgot that one! lol.

I have mixed emotions about it all. I'd like to see guys like Taylor & McGlashan play but you don't want to see wholesale changes. I suppose these guys have got to get some game time soon if NZ want them to be reliable back-ups for the World Cup.
All well and good, but say they all perform brilliantly - what do the selectors then do?
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
All well and good, but say they all perform brilliantly - what do the selectors then do?
I guess they do what they usually do here and go back through the old tried and tested. Look how many chances some of our guys (bar Sinclair) seem to get.
 

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