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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
All well and good, but say they all perform brilliantly - what do the selectors then do?
Enjoy the job of selecting from an embarrassment of riches?
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
Voltman said:
Enjoy the job of selecting from an embarrassment of riches?
Is it just me, or does everyone else feel like when they are spoilt for choice, they make the wrong decision?

ie Mills in the test team...
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
sirjeremy11 said:
I guess they do what they usually do here and go back through the old tried and tested. Look how many chances some of our guys (bar Sinclair) seem to get.
And what sort of message does that give to the ones that have come in?
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
And what sort of message does that give to the ones that have come in?
If at first you don't succeed, you will NEVER EVER get looked at again.

If at first you do, you still may be chucked on the scrap heap.

Not a great message. Guess they are trying to establish a whole team worth of next cabs off the rank. To be fair to them, with the amount of injuries going round...
 

Blaze

Banned
sirjeremy11 said:
Is it just me, or does everyone else feel like when they are spoilt for choice, they make the wrong decision?

ie Mills in the test team...

Yeah if it's a 50/50 pick, the selectors always seem to go for the opposite player that I would have.

i.e Mills over Butler in the Australia test
Marshall and How over Taylor in the West Indies series.
Chris Martin over anyone in the Sri Lanka ODI's
James Marshall over anyone whenever he has been picked.
 

BlackCap_Fan

State Vice-Captain
sirjeremy11 said:
No. I meant he seems to not be in top form...

Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic.
Don't worry. It's pretty hard to tell if someone's being sarcastic over the internet.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
Blaze said:
Yeah if it's a 50/50 pick, the selectors always seem to go for the opposite player that I would have.

i.e Mills over Butler in the Australia test
.
Oh yeah, that was poor. Wonder what life had been like had they picked Butler...
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Although I wonder what life would have been like had Mills been given one of those LBWs early on...
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
Voltman said:
Although I wonder what life would have been like had Mills been given one of those LBWs early on...
Point. Happened the tour before aswell. Cairns to Hayden. He got a hundred. Or was it Langer? He got a hundred too.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
IndianByHeart said:
I don't think this WI team will be able to make much of an impact in the comming WC 2007 on its own home ground.Its unfortunate to see WI struggling to find quality performers for their team.
Not necessarily true.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Ramnaresh Sarwan needs to learn when not to play at balls outside his offstump and if he's going to go after them do it with some effort. If he can master this, he'll easily get his 40+ average above 50.
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
In ODI's? There are very few players averaging 50 in ODI's. Bevan managed to do it because he was batting and 6 ending alot of innings 'not out'.

He's at 43 I believe, it'll be difficult for him to go much higher than 45 if you ask me.
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
Tim said:
In ODI's? There are very few players averaging 50 in ODI's. Bevan managed to do it because he was batting and 6 ending alot of innings 'not out'.

He's at 43 I believe, it'll be difficult for him to go much higher than 45 if you ask me.
I thought the statement was regarding Tests. Sarwan certainly does have a propensity to throw it away by going half-heartedly at balls outside off when seemingly well-set.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Tim said:
In ODI's? There are very few players averaging 50 in ODI's. Bevan managed to do it because he was batting and 6 ending alot of innings 'not out'.

He's at 43 I believe, it'll be difficult for him to go much higher than 45 if you ask me.
Sarwan averaged over 60 for a while in 2003. He was then moved higher up the order and didn't get as many chances to finish. He's certainly capable of averaging over 50 in ODI cricket though.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
sirjeremy11 said:
No. I meant he seems to not be in top form...

Couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic.
Scott Styris is in good form and is the most consistant batsman in NZ line-up at the moment dis regarding the last match. He think he performs well in the position hes in but I'm a bit worried about his bowling he been going for a few and its not really his role to be a major strike bowler so he should just try to keep the economy rate down.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Tim said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
Ok. I was wrong. He never averaged over 60, but he averaged as high 57podd.
Sarwan averaged over 50 until his 41st ODI innings.
He averaged 48.68 after 67 ODI innings.

Surely it's not that hard to believe. You clearly underestimate the man.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
I seriously doubt Sarwan is capable of averaging over 50 if he bats anywhere between 1-5 for most of his career. Even with the benefit of the start to his career.

That being said, he's a fairly underrated ODI batsman.
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
Im not saying he can't. I think he's very good. But we're talking about an average of 50 in ODI's here!
 

Sir Redman

State Vice-Captain
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Ok. I was wrong. He never averaged over 60, but he averaged as high 57podd.
Sarwan averaged over 50 until his 41st ODI innings.
He averaged 48.68 after 67 ODI innings.

Surely it's not that hard to believe. You clearly underestimate the man.
Yes, but it seems as if bowlers have worked him out and so his average has fallen accordingly. If he continually gets out playing at balls outside off-stump then you'd think that good bowlers (and coaches for that matter) would have picked up on it and so bowl in that area.

That said, I personally rate him highly in ODIs. Better than any of our middle order batsmen for starters.
 

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