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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2013/14

Zinzan

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Update anyone please? How bleak is it looking? And does anyone know anything about the drainage here?
 
Beamer

Beamer

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Happy New Year everyone.

Just logged on to be greeted by news of more rain. What a disastrous tour this has been! Awful on the pitch (apart from last ODI), unmanageable injury crisis, awful selections, off-field controversy which we have only just heard a bit about, (I'm sure there is more to come). Now the weather has joined in too so I don't even get to watch a decent bowling attack now we've finally selected one. Misery, misery , misery! Stop raining dammit!
 
Bahnz

Bahnz

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Maybe this'll get the NZC to change their policy re reserve days. I guess it must be more expensive hiring out a venue for 2 days instead of one, but they're still probably better off doing it than risking losing an ODI altogether.
 
Zinzan

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NZ cricket need to buy a brain & realise that international cricket is a business and they actually have some commercial obligations. They need to

1) Stop scheduling games in Queenstown where it's rained the last 2-3 attempts.
2) Look at either reserve days or even as someone in cricinfo suggested have a plan B location ready if the forecast is dodgy a week out. I get that involves last minute movement from the sky team etc, but that's what a BCP is all about, the ability to be nimble.
3) Schedule at grounds that have good drainage like Eden Park so you don't get the laughable situation like McLean park in which a day/night game is abandoned in sunshine because of the outfield.
4) Invest in the sort of ground covers and wet weather technology a small country like Sri Lankan seems to have no problem investing in.

You can't control rain, but you can actually plan to mitigate disruption if you starting thinking of it like a friggen business.

Bunch of *** amateurs NZC
 
Prince EWS

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Zinzan said:
1) Stop scheduling games in Queenstown where it's rained the last 2-3 attempts.
3) Schedule at grounds that have good drainage like Eden Park so you don't get the laughable situation like McLean park in which a day/night game is abandoned in sunshine because of the outfield.
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You've repeatedly made these points and I've avoid biting but I'm sorry, this is ridiculous. You can't just schedule every game in Auckland because it might rain FFS.

Match up each ground's allocation with a time of the year it's less likely to rain... allocate reserve days.. provide financial assistance in improving covers and drainage... sure, these are fine ideas. But as you said, it's a business, and you can't just ignore so many potential consumers by banning 95% of the country from hosting international fixtures to decrease the chance of rain. You don't see Australia hosting every fixture at Docklands under the closed roof.
 
Zinzan

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Prince EWS said:
You've repeatedly made these points and I've avoid biting but I'm sorry, this is ridiculous. You can't just schedule every game in Auckland because it might rain FFS.
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Where exactgly did I say every game should be played at Eden Park? I was using it as an example of a ground that drains particularly well. There are others that drain relatively well also. This absolutely should be a consideration.

Prince EWS said:
Match up each ground's allocation with a time of the year it's less likely to rain... allocate reserve days.. provide financial assistance in improving covers and drainage... sure, these are fine ideas. But as you said, it's a business, and you can't just ignore so many potential consumers by banning 95% of the country from hosting international fixtures to decrease the chance of rain. You don't see Australia hosting every fixture at Docklands under the closed roof. .
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It's ridiculous comparing NZ with Australia in this respect. Most of the key Australian grounds drain well and you get very few completely abandoned Internationals over there. If it ain't broke.

I'm trying to suggest alternatives and contingencies to mitigate weather disruptions in a country which has more than its fair share of weather-affected games. What are you trying to do? Excuse me for thinking with a business hat on, but in my line of work we need to plan for contingencies to ensure we have business continuity. The problem is most of the NZC board are probably like you and will block their ears without even considering some out-of-the-box solutions to the problem. They'd just say, "oh yeah, it's rains, what rotten luck'.
 
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Bahnz

Bahnz

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Zinzan said:
2) Look at either reserve days or even as someone in cricinfo suggested have a plan B location ready if the forecast is dodgy a week out. I get that involves last minute movement from the sky team etc, but that's what a BCP is all about, the ability to be nimble.
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Yeah, you can't do this:

a) Weather forecasts are generally pretty **** a week in advance, so you wouldn't have a strong basis to change the venue in the first place.

b) People do still book tickets in advance for specific venues at specific dates, you can't just go changing the venue to a different city at the last second.

The reserve day is a sensible idea, and if you get 2 straight days of ****ty weather, well that's just bad luck I guess.
 
Flem274*

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Late December is always awful weather wise. Who remembers the last time it didn't rain on Christmas day? During the last few years I've been in NP and it rained, I've been in Auckland and it rained, I've been in Northland and it rained...

Until our late summer drought kicks in during January-March we're going to have to live with rain.
 
Zinzan

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Yeah, rained in the morning interfering with my traditional xmas morning tennis match with my old man. But as so often in Auckland, it didn't stick around too long.

Perhaps Bahnz slept in.
 
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