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**Official** Pakistan in Australia Thread

Unattainableguy

State 12th Man
marc71178 said:
Trescothick has kept in ODI's, but that doesn't make him anything more than a back-up keeper in an emergency, certainly not one to give the gloves to for a Test!
I'm not saying Australia should replace Gilchrist with Langer and they won't since Gilchrist can bat. But Langer probably would be the best option for them if Gilchrist weren't there. They would rather have Langer wicket-keep for them because he can bat and has had a lot of experience with batting. With some practice, he can become a good wicket-keeper too( if he's JUST okay already). And considering the type of standard Australian team has in terms of their batting, I don't think they would be willing to bring in a decent wicket-keeper, possibly weakening their batting line-up.
And Pakistan should also think of playing Younis Khan as their wicket-keeper because they're not so good with their batting. It will allow them to play with one more batsman and give them a chance to score more runs.
I'm gonna let Bob Woolmer and Pakistan selectors know of this supreme idea of mine :cool:
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Mister Wright said:
He wouldn't be a direct replacement for Lehmann, but if they decide to go with 2 spinners then Watson would be likely to replace Lehmann to give Australia a 3rd seamer.
That's my point.

If they intended dropping Lehmann then Katich would've been in the side.

The only way he'll miss out would be based on team balance, but I'd say that Lehmann's a better option as a second spinner anyway!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Unattainableguy said:
I'm not saying Australia should replace Gilchrist with Langer and they won't since Gilchrist can bat. But Langer probably would be the best option for them if Gilchrist weren't there.
I think actually a proper wicket-keeper would be the best option.



Unattainableguy said:
And Pakistan should also think of playing Younis Khan as their wicket-keeper because they're not so good with their batting. It will allow them to play with one more batsman and give them a chance to score more runs.
I'm gonna let Bob Woolmer and Pakistan selectors know of this supreme idea of mine :cool:
But what about the loss in ability of the keeper - do you really think he'd be any use when he's got the variety of Akhtar and Kaneria to deal with?
 

PAKMAN

State 12th Man
if inzi playz in the third test that would mean yasir out with afridi and asif playing fo malik and sami ,and if abdul razzaq is not playin then asim kamal would come in , i think
 

bryce

International Regular
i think they should give asif a go, all the other bowlers(bar akhtar, sami & kaneria) have looked completely ineffective so they have nothing to lose.
i think the only reason aussie are rotating their 12th man is to let all those players(katich, lee, macgill & watson) know that they still in the frame to play test matches.
 

Josh

International Regular
With a bit of experience, Kamran's batting will improve. Can't just dismiss someone in the early days of their career.

As for the keeping, I've only seen it one or two times, but when a keeper has had to leave the field, Ricky Ponting took the gloves and did a good job. That also was probably about 10 years ago. But the man is a freak.
 

howardj

International Coach
There's a letter to the editor in today's paper that sort of sums up my feelings about Boof Lehmann: "Darren Lehmann has to go...Im sick of watching him put his arms around Michael Clarke to reinforce his reputation as the mentor for Australia's young guns. We should be picking someone who is currently scoring runs"
 

LongHopCassidy

International Captain
I'm not sure that this measure will work, if it's used at all. Andrew Symonds was brought in in Sri Lanka to act as a third seamer/batsman (presumably Watson's job in Sydney) in the first two Tests - and failed.

Like Tugga once said, I don't think that this side has room for an all-rounder.
 

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
LongHopCassidy said:
I'm not sure that this measure will work, if it's used at all. Andrew Symonds was brought in in Sri Lanka to act as a third seamer/batsman (presumably Watson's job in Sydney) in the first two Tests - and failed.

Like Tugga once said, I don't think that this side has room for an all-rounder.
Symonds isn't an allrounder in the class of Watson. Watson is just as good if not better a batsman, and a far, far better bowler. Especially when talking about seam bowling; there's no comparison!
 

Choora

State Regular
Unattainableguy said:
And Pakistan should also think of playing Younis Khan as their wicket-keeper because they're not so good with their batting. It will allow them to play with one more batsman and give them a chance to score more runs.
I'm gonna let Bob Woolmer and Pakistan selectors know of this supreme idea of mine :cool:
And who exactly is that batsman????? for them to play seven batsmen, a batter must be flown from Pak, as there isn't enough batsmen in the Pak Squad.

And i think ur supreme idea could easily prove to be a nightmare for Paistanis. Remember if someone like Langer is given a chance at the early part of his innings, then the next time one will get another chance to dismiss him is when he has crosses 200 mark!
 

Choora

State Regular
I think pak can restore some pride if they manage the last match to last for 5 days and make Aus fight for victory.

I think Farhat should be thrown out of the test match, malik is already out of match with illness and even if Razzak recovers, he shouldn't be considered.

i would go for foll 11 players

Butt
Afridi
younus
Inzi
Youhanna
Asim
Akmal
Naveed
akhter
danish
khalil.

Afridi will probably fail but unlike Farhat or hameed he can be useful with the ball. Naveed should get the nod coz of his expeiance, he might not be good but still is better than Razzak.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Unattainableguy said:
Younis Khan did stop the deliveries Shoaib Akhtar bowled and also of the spinners( Didn't see any ball go behind him) And Younis Khan is tall( taller than any other Pakistan wicket-keeper) and this will allow him to jump higher than anyone else to catch the bouncers of and edges off Shoaib Akhtar deliveries and also cover a big distance by diving to his left or right. He's a good fielder and this will help him with his wicket-keeping.
And even if he did let go a few balls behind( which I hope he wouldn't if given a chance), I still think it wouldn't cost Pakistan much as long as it's not a catch...He can make up for those runs with his bat.
Pakistan should, atleast, test him in a few matches
1. did stop the deliveries Shoaib Akhtar bowled and also of the spinners

2. Didn't see any ball go behind him

3. is tall( taller than any other Pakistan wicket-keeper) and this will allow him to jump higher than anyone else to catch the bouncers

4. He's a good fielder and this will help him with his wicket-keeping.

5. if he did let go a few balls behind( which I hope he wouldn't if given a chance), I still think it wouldn't cost Pakistan much as long as it's not a catch

6. even if he did ...He can make up for those runs with his bat


Extremely modest and very strange (rather bizzare) criteria for an international wicketkeeper. Without commenting on Younis's merits as a keeper, this criteria would be fulfilled by a very large number of tall batsmen all over the world. Here is a novel way to make it to a test side.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Maybe there's a space for Will Jefferson as England's back-up keeper then?

He's tall, and I'm sure he caught the ball once!
 

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