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*Official* NZ Domestic Season
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SouthernMan
Cricket Spectator
Break down of the squad, to the best of my knowledge. So if anybody can see if I have put a player in the wrong categoery, just tell me and I will change it.Blakey said:
Quick bowlers
Dean Bartlett (Auckland, RHB, RAMF),
Colin Munro (Auckland LHB, RAMF),
Hamish Bennett (Canterbury, LHB, RAMF),
Timothy Southee (Northern Districts, RHB, RAMF)
All rounders
Kieran Noema-Barnett (Otago LHB, RAM),
Ronald Karaitiana (Wellington RHB, RAM),
Wicket keepers
Nicolas Fitzgerald (Northern Districts LHB, WK),
Shaun Fitzgibbon (Otago RHB, WK)
Batsmen (spinners in bold)
Marc Ellison (Auckland, RHB, Captain)
Todd Astle (Canterbury, RHB, RALS, Vice Captain)
Andrew De Boorder (Auckland RHB, RAM)
Jason Donnelly (Auckland LHB. LAS)
Spinners
Roneel Hira (Auckland LHB, LAS)
Martin Guptill (Auckland RHB, RAOS)
Im sure I have some wrong but I think thats a basic run down. So we could have 4 specalist batsmen in the playing XI the two all rounders, keeper at 7 spinner and three pacemen?
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Good to have pace - however most important is accuracy. Do you think the Academy is or will do a good enough job to help these guys develop Bondlike accuracy as well as maintain fitness?Blaze said:
I remember all this talk about NZers having to train indoors and this not being so good on their backs and limbs. Is anything being done to aid how they train?
de Boorder is a good player SM. I think you should have him named in that allrounders section, because he bowls first change for Kings College and is a very handy wicket taker. Fine batsman, and has made some very big scores inc a 200. Was good to have him in our indoor team last year....
SouthernMan
Cricket Spectator
I was breaking it down to this
The two all rounders I picked had both scored runs and had taken wickets through out the tournament. When I was looking through to see if De Boorder took any wickets I found nothing to proove that he did, so he can remain a specalist batsman. Plus isn't he a wicket keeper?
(although I could only find 4 specalist batsmen).
The two all rounders I picked had both scored runs and had taken wickets through out the tournament. When I was looking through to see if De Boorder took any wickets I found nothing to proove that he did, so he can remain a specalist batsman. Plus isn't he a wicket keeper?
rogerramjet
Cricket Spectator
This guy Dean Bartlett sounds quite promising.
Twould be nice to see some of these young bowlers come through to international level in the next few years.
They should preemptively be given the Bond titanium operation now though.
Found this > a gif of Bartlett bowling.
http://www.ellersliecricket.co.nz/photos/u19/wicket.gif
Twould be nice to see some of these young bowlers come through to international level in the next few years.
They should preemptively be given the Bond titanium operation now though.
Found this > a gif of Bartlett bowling.
http://www.ellersliecricket.co.nz/photos/u19/wicket.gif
SouthernMan
Cricket Spectator
Wellington need to have a good hard look at themselves, the pitch kept abit low at times but nothing out of the ordinary. So to bat as badly as they did is an absolute disgrace. But saying that McSkimming did bowl quite well, he bowled a very good consistent line and put all the batsmen under alot of pressure. Then when the Otago batsmen came out they showed how to bat on the pitch (not that there was anythiong wrong with it), all they did was just got their feet to the pitch of it and they played it with ease. Hold your heads in shame Wellington.
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SouthernMan
Cricket Spectator
Ming said:
Wouldin't know exact speeds, but I would say somewhere in between 125 and 135. Something similar to what Franklin bowls.
The main problem with the Wellington batsmen is that most of them went out there with a defensive mind set, only a couple got dissmissed trying to play shots. The ones that were trying to play shots looked good at the crease.
I dont know what anyone else thinks but the following has been my gripe for the last 10 years and not much has improved during that time. But the standard of first-class batting around the country is an absolute disgrace. Just look at the scores today. We have 4-day cricket but why?, no-one has the ability to bat for any length of time to produce a decent score. I mean one-side today opened with hitchcock, what a joke!
If the black-caps are to succeed at next years world cup batting has to be far better. We need a lot more out of fleming as a batsman, we need fulton, astle, styris and all the fringe candidates around the country to be performing way better than we are currently even if the blackcaps have won 4-1.
If the black-caps are to succeed at next years world cup batting has to be far better. We need a lot more out of fleming as a batsman, we need fulton, astle, styris and all the fringe candidates around the country to be performing way better than we are currently even if the blackcaps have won 4-1.
James
Cricket Web Owner
I think NZC had to take some of the blame here too. They take domestic cricket is so many minor venues, just look at the schedule - http://www.nzcricket.co.nz/display.aspx?pri=40&sec=229&cid=5339&provider=0&tpl=1 where the pitches aren't obviously of a suitable standard.
Where's Jade Stadium - isn't used. Where's Carisbrook - isn't used. The list could go on...
For our domestic game to improve we need to start using our top pitches rather than the mine fields that are being served up in these small towns.
Where's Jade Stadium - isn't used. Where's Carisbrook - isn't used. The list could go on...
For our domestic game to improve we need to start using our top pitches rather than the mine fields that are being served up in these small towns.
Blaze
Banned
Darrin said:
Today's games were One Dayers?
But I here what you are saying. Something that annoys me more is when you see the likes of Tama Canning etc opening the bowling or taking bags of wickets. To move forward we need to manipulate our pitches so that medium pacers get very little assistance from the pitch and don't succeed as much as they have in the past. This will in turn mean that batsmen are more likely to score more runs as bowlers will have to bowl really consistantly well to get rewards. Michael Mason and Ian O'Brien failed at international level because there is such a big diference between the pitches at domestic and international level. They bowled the length that had worked for them at domestic level and got carted because international wickets are harder and better to bat on.
I am obviously surprised at Peter Fulton's level of success at international level but it goes to show that he is someone who has benefited from playing on better wickets against Sri Lanka. The same could be said for Hamish Marshall and I reckon the same would apply to Ross Taylor and Jesse Ryder if they were given the chance to play for the black caps.
Blaze
Banned
I think you will find that it was a good move for the south island teams to move their matches away from those 2 major venues. The boundaries are too small and the wickets out at Hagley or wherever they play in Christchurch are generally excellent. It is a non issue in the South Island IMO. The wickets are pretty good wherever they play down there. I could be wrong about University Oval though?James said:
