*Official** New Zealand in England

[tooextracool]

I thought that it was started in February this year, but I might be wrong (too feeble to look).

but it was still before the 7-12

 

[superkingdave]

I would back England to get 10 wickets tommorow - the only reason the batting looks so easy is the really poor bowling - the ball will misbehave if its in the right place

 

[Loony BoB]

also how come astle aint bowling ?

guess its still his injury ?

i say we give flemming a bowl

Richardson before Fleming. Astle could be given a shot, although I'm not sure if it's the kind of "attack" (if you can call it that) we should be going after. Pity we don't have a McMillan or someone similar who has a knack for breaking partnerships.

 

[tooextracool]

Well from watching Tuffey i cant see him being that effective on flat pitches, i can see why he might be succesful in NZ though

to be fair on him, he did do a pretty good job in india.

 

[superkingdave]

to be fair on him, he did do a pretty good job in india.

What were the overhead conditions like, much swing?

 

[Loony BoB]

Like anzac said, he's just not fit. He passed the same fitness test Bond passed, and do you see Bond anywhere? That was obviously a very weak fitness test.

 

[MoxPearl]

most people wont have a clue who im talking about.. but to replace veto... Jeetan Patel

whos heard of him ? he plays 4 wellington

 

[anzac]

Yeah but we had some effective bowlers i.e Jones and his reverse swing.

and as some of us have said - this NZL attack isn't full strength or fit...........

Flem may very well be between a rock & a hard place..........team selections for both batting & bowling based primarily upon who is fit enough to take the field, with players from both carrying injury & struggling for form.........

as I see it he can't rely upon any element of the team to 'save' the match let alone try to win it.............so rather than accelerate the game he needs to slow it down, but the bowlers can't even find enough consistency to do that...........

 

[MoxPearl]

I would back England to get 10 wickets tommorow - the only reason the batting looks so easy is the really poor bowling - the ball will misbehave if its in the right place

yeah well our batters are 20x better than our bowlers.. or did u miss the first innings ?

 

[Loony BoB]

If Vettori goes off and Papps is also off... who comes on to field, out of curiosity? McMillan's also a no-go... Mills is already on for Papps... Sinclair around?

 

[anzac]

Well from watching Tuffey i cant see him being that effective on flat pitches, i can see why he might be succesful in NZ though

did you see the series in IND????????

 

[superkingdave]

yeah well our batters are 20x better than our bowlers.. or did u miss the first innings ?

No i didn't miss the first innings but the pitch isnt a first day one anymore...and Papps and Vettori are carrying injuries.

Mind you they wont take the wickets if they keep dropping catches

 

[twctopcat]

yeah well our batters are 20x better than our bowlers.. or did u miss the first innings ?

Not as simple as that, we fielded like tossers on the first day, and Papps and to a lesser extent Fleming were lucky. And on this pitch wickets could fall tomorrow.

 

[MoxPearl]

If Vettori goes off and Papps is also off... who comes on to field, out of curiosity? McMillan's also a no-go... Mills is already on for Papps... Sinclair around?

Bond is on the field....

Seriously give richardson or flemming a bowl lol

 

[anzac]

except that it wasnt at headingly.....

 

[MoxPearl]

Not as simple as that, we fielded like tossers on the first day, and Papps and to a lesser extent Fleming were lucky. And on this pitch wickets could fall tomorrow.

yeah well people have been saying that this entire test match.. your batters have been lucky to u know.. dropped a few times.. lbws not given etc.

 

[Loony BoB]

most people wont have a clue who im talking about.. but to replace veto... Jeetan Patel

whos heard of him ? he plays 4 wellington

Looking at his stats, he's far from impressive, even at domestic level... he only took 7 wickets from 8 matches this season. May as well have another 80mph seamer!

 

[superkingdave]

Flintoff Out for 94

 

[MoxPearl]

finally a wicket! lol (once again not one of the strike bowlers) lol

 

[twctopcat]

Sounds as if Flintoff got away with an LBW. Is it me or has Bucknor gone a bit senile over the past year? Used to be a pretty much flawless umpire.

EDIT: Flintoff off out, ****.