***Official*** NatWest Series/Challenge

[aussie]

Congratulation to Bangladesh.......completely outclassed the 'champions' . when i was watching the match i didnt think it was bangladesh who were playing but a really professional team....they smacked Mcgrath and Gillespie all around. For me i can see the australian downfall to be honest, there batting doesnt seem threatful after ponting and Martyn, and dont really want to talk about the bowling!!!! from now on the no1 ranking for ODI (atleast) is open for teams like England, Pakistan, SA etc....Australia will need to fight really hard to mantain this position.

Bangladesh will take this confidence and atleast give a real fight for the rest of ODI series, they seem a completely different team after this win. And i hope people start respecting them as a team and give them some support because they need it.

Please Australia wont start decling after one shocking defeat. The only way you can say that with certainty is if they dont qualify for the Natwest Finals, lose the Natwest Challeng enad then go on to lose the Ashes as well

 

[aussie]

Who do you support England or Australia?

Australia all the wayyyyyyyyy. But England are my home team so i have to support them as well

 

[Mister Wright]

will be interesting to see if Ashraful can back up that hundred with more runs, his recent perfromances in test cricket after his big hundred dont look so good.

Ahmed looks a top prospect though i must say.

on Australias perfromance.... umm... .Ponting looked terrible for all 16 balls he was out there, Hayden didn't look much better till he hit that 6. Martyn looked ok but didn't look in much of a rush to score runs. same with Clarke - though batting with Martyn gets like that sometimes. Hussey and Katich get top marks from me for helping the total look remotley competitive.

didn't see the bowling (was asleep) but from the look of the pitch in the first innings i was surprised to see McGrath go wicketless, even more surprised to see Clarke and Hogg go for runs.

Why? Hogg has shown time and time again he is not up to international standard and Clarke is a batsman.

 

[aussie]

I hate Michael Holding as a commentator.

He's pretty decent to me. I like his Jamaican acsent

 

[Mister Wright]

I hate Michael Holding as a commentator.

Yeah, what relationship does he have with a England, Bangladesh and Australian one day series?

 

[aliG]

i wonder why Ponting didn't bowl first in conditions that were so helpful for bowling

If instead of Australia, the losing team was brown...then it would have been immediately have been subjected to match fixing charges.

 

[aussie]

Worried yet?

I'm getting their, once they lose today i'll be pretty much bitting out my nails

 

[aussie]

Are you so sure of that after what happened?

Well in a way i feel that if Ponting had bowled first they would have won. But its a gut feeling i have no substantial reason to back it up

 

[Mister Wright]

Wow! That was a great much. I must say I anticipated the game to be over just in time for me to watch the whole Broncos game at 9:20pm on Fox, but as it turned out I had to switch between, but there was none of that after about the 18th over in Bangladesh's 2nd innings. You could start to feel the momentum switch and it is one of the best 2nd innings chases I have seen in a long time.

Ponting needs some captaincy lessons that is for sure. Any plans Australia had of using Michael Clarke as an allrounder should quickly be disbanded, as should Hogg's place in the side.

In all this euphoria of Bangladesh's win, it should be remembered that Australia had their chances to win the game, had Gillespie not botched the chance to get Ashraful (sp) caught off Kaspa and if Gilly hadn't of missed the simple stumping off Clarke's bowling it could have been a different story.

But, as TEC said, Bangaladesh out played Australia in every effort, and I was riding them home to win in the last 15 overs, truely amazing stuff.

 

[aussie]

You missed a great innings!

Honestly i am glad i missed it

 

[Slats4ever]

Who is starting any argeument??????
Just responding to your comment and wanted to know what was great about it?
I think you are ashamed that Bang,won...or you are in shock and trying to work out what has happened in your world just now.....why dont you just say you are happy that bang won rather than beat around the bush i think you were trying to stir up a bit of trouble were you not??????
I also think most aussies would be glad that bang have won as it will make the world of cricket better so come out of your shell and scream from the rooftops...just one question for you please without getting upset...in yur other threads you say you are an aussie cricket supporter have you changed just because oz lost or what is happening you are in deep shock DASA please take deep breath and settle down.......................

i have every idea what you're on about. Dasa is a crazy man

 

[Mister Wright]

Honestly i am glad i missed it

You're only saying that because you are an Aussie fan, and not a cricket fan. Seriously, it was one of the best paced innings ever, keeping wickets and hand and putting the foot on the pedal at exactly the right moment, the batsman showing composure beyond their years and a so called good captain getting 'frazeled' with every delivery.

 

[Slats4ever]

Wow! That was a great much. I must say I anticipated the game to be over just in time for me to watch the whole Broncos game at 9:20pm on Fox, but as it turned out I had to switch between, but there was none of that after about the 18th over in Bangladesh's 2nd innings. You could start to feel the momentum switch and it is one of the best 2nd innings chases I have seen in a long time.

Ponting needs some captaincy lessons that is for sure. Any plans Australia had of using Michael Clarke as an allrounder should quickly be disbanded, as should Hogg's place in the side.

In all this euphoria of Bangladesh's win, it should be remembered that Australia had their chances to win the game, had Gillespie not botched the chance to get Ashraful (sp) caught off Kaspa and if Gilly hadn't of missed the simple stumping off Clarke's bowling it could have been a different story.

But, as TEC said, Bangaladesh out played Australia in every effort, and I was riding them home to win in the last 15 overs, truely amazing stuff.

I reckon Buchanan's not a great coach, Pontings a great player but an ordinary captain, and Hogg isn't a world class spin bowler... These three elemts have been hiding behind Australia's immense talent and sensational form over the past 3 or 4 years, but as soon as that goes things like these really start getting found out.

 

[cricket player]

Great win for bangladesh It will will boast their confidence and perhaps made them realize how much they are capable of.

Great going Ashraful.

 

[aussie]

You're only saying that because you are an Aussie fan, and not a cricket fan. Seriously, it was one of the best paced innings ever, keeping wickets and hand and putting the foot on the pedal at exactly the right moment, the batsman showing composure beyond their years and a so called good captain getting 'frazeled' with every delivery.

i agree mate and i am a cricket fan, but yesterday was one a those days that trying to view the game on a cricket in general was difficult.

 

[Mister Wright]

I reckon Buchanan's not a great coach, Pontings a great player but an ordinary captain, and Hogg isn't a world class spin bowler... These three elemts have been hiding behind Australia's immense talent and sensational form over the past 3 or 4 years, but as soon as that goes things like these really start getting found out.

Buchanan is a good coach, but all the coaching in the world doesn't help if the captain cannot execute the game plans.

 

[Mister Wright]

i agree mate and i am a cricket fan, but yesterday was one a those days that trying to view the game on a cricket in general was difficult.

Australia losing isn't the end of the world. I remember when I first started watching cricket and Australia really had to fight for their wins, and were often the underdog, and that's what was exciting about watching and seeing Australia win. However, over the last 7 or so years it gets less and less exciting to watch a cricket game when Australia have the game wrapped up by lunch on the 2nd day. I love it when teams put up a challenge and give Australia a real fight, and while I like to see Australia win in a close one, I couldn't help but cheer every Bangladesh boundary.

 

[aussie]

I reckon Buchanan's not a great coach, Pontings a great player but an ordinary captain, and Hogg isn't a world class spin bowler... These three elemts have been hiding behind Australia's immense talent and sensational form over the past 3 or 4 years, but as soon as that goes things like these really start getting found out.

Hogg was never considered a world class spinner so i wouldn't say that fact has been hidden for the past 3 years. I agee Buchanan is not a great coach but dont start condeming him after yesterdays performace while saying that Ponting is an ordinary skipper is a bit too harsh

 

[Mister Wright]

Hogg was never considered a world class spinner so i wouldn't say that fact has been hidden for the past 3 years. I agee Buchanan is not a great coach but dont start condeming him after yesterdays performace while saying that Ponting is an ordinary skipper is a bit too harsh

I don't think it is. Many (including Australians) have been saying ever since he took over the captaincy that he lacks vision and surprise with his bowling changes when Australia are in trouble. Usually Warne & McGrath or the batsman get him out of a whole. That wasn't working last night, so the captain needed to do something inspiring - a field change here and unexpected bowling change there - but it didn't happen.

 

[Slats4ever]

Hogg was never considered a world class spinner so i wouldn't say that fact has been hidden for the past 3 years. I agee Buchanan is not a great coach but dont start condeming him after yesterdays performace while saying that Ponting is an ordinary skipper is a bit too harsh

If Hogg isn't a world class spinner why is he regularly being picked in the best OD side in the world?

Buchanan isn't good Mister W. In my opininion he is just a statistical analysor.. If you can provide evidence of why he is a good coach please do so. His record with Australia has been due to the talent of the side, not due to his coaching...

I'm not saying Ponting's captaincy is ordinary simply because of yesterday's performance, rather his efforts as leader the whole time. He doens't have the same temperament or flair as Taylor and Border, or the same mental strength and belief in his decisions as Waugh.