***Official*** NatWest Series/Challenge

[FaaipDeOiad]

Have you been watching Hogg bowl?

Okay. They weren't bowling everything halfway down.

 

[Mister Wright]

Watching Lee today just confirms my suspicions that he will be no 're-born revelation' in test cricket. Without England having to chase a huge total they have just been able to see him off and let him give them some runs with his stray front foot. With the field being a lot more attacking in the tests, he would have gone for a few more. Unless he's firing in yorkers every ball he doesn't look consistently dangerous. He cannot be picked on the basis that he will bowl that one 'jaffer', as we saw against India in Sydney he may bowl 4 'jaffas' but he'll go for 200.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Watching Lee today just confirms my suspicions that he will be no 're-born revelation' in test cricket. Without England having to chase a huge total they have just been able to see him off and let him give them some runs with his stray front foot. With the field being a lot more attacking in the tests, he would have gone for a few more. Unless he's firing in yorkers every ball he doesn't look consistently dangerous. He cannot be picked on the basis that he will bowl that one 'jaffer', as we saw against India in Sydney he may bowl 4 'jaffas' but he'll go for 200.

Totally unfair. Honestly, what have you got against Lee? Yes, he had some no-ball problems, but basically 90% of his deliveries have been on the money today. What more can you ask from a bowler, than he runs in and puts most of his deliveries in the corridor at decent pace? We've seen he can move the ball around, and can trouble the English batsmen. Obviously nobody know show he will go in the test side, but he's clearly a damn sight better than he was 18 months ago as a prospect.

At Sydney he bowled a few good balls, but he also sprayed it all over the place at times. He hasn't done that here at all.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Out of curiosity if Hayden takes a catch will it be caught Hayden or caught sub? I imagine it's caught sub but it'll be weird anyway.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Out of curiosity if Hayden takes a catch will it be caught Hayden or caught sub? I imagine it's caught sub but it'll be weird anyway.

I'd guess: c sub (ML Hayden)

 

[Mister Wright]

Totally unfair. Honestly, what have you got against Lee? Yes, he had some no-ball problems, but basically 90% of his deliveries have been on the money today. What more can you ask from a bowler, than he runs in and puts most of his deliveries in the corridor at decent pace? We've seen he can move the ball around, and can trouble the English batsmen. Obviously nobody know show he will go in the test side, but he's clearly a damn sight better than he was 18 months ago as a prospect.

At Sydney he bowled a few good balls, but he also sprayed it all over the place at times. He hasn't done that here at all.

Oh please, he has been inconsistent today. I have nothing against Lee, I think he is a fantastic one day bowler, however, unlike many think ODIs and tests are a different game. Lets look at the facts. Lee's recent record in test match cricket is not flash. His record in England in test match cricket is even worse. Kasprowicz has been consistent and part of a formidable and a winning side. He deserves to lose his place due to his own poor performances not from a perspective that another player 'might' do better.

You cannot tell me the English batsman haven't looked more comfortable against Lee, knowing they don't have to hit almost every one of his balls for a boundary.

 

[luckyeddie]

Well, it's all looking pretty dire here, and hard to see us working our way back into this one. I wonder if there's any chance of another look at Kasper in the last two games - could be that Gillespie has koala status though.

I thought it was looking good - I looked again and I still did.

As the great Spike Milligan once said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Get it out with Optrex.

 

[Mister Wright]

I'd guess: c sub (ML Hayden)

That is correct. Technically he is playing as a 13th man, not a super-sub. I'd imagine if Hogg caught one it would go down as an official catch as he is now officially taking part in the match.

 

[marc71178]

Another poor pitch for ODIs

Why?

Just because it's not a 330 plays 320?

 

[marc71178]

Jesus Christ , is it me or is it a pattern every f**king time Australia look like their getting away from England throughout the summer, they keep striking back.

This England side doesn't lie down...

 

[marc71178]

yep thats true, bowlers tend to get silly when bowling at Headingly, but when Pigeon gets the ball this afternoon he'll show all how to bowl perfectly on this pitch.

Quoted for posterity

 

[marc71178]

Quoted for posterity:

Not as good as:

McGrath to Gough, (noball) one run, oh dear! McGrath oversteps

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Wow... Trescothick's got guts staying at the crease after that.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Well, that balances out the shocker Martyn got away with in the first dig.

 

[marc71178]

Hogg replaces... Hayden.

Hayden sub fielding for Watson. Creative use of the rules by Australia.

What is the wording about the spirit of the game?

 

[marc71178]

Standard moronic dismissal for England.

Standard moronic post for Scaly piscine.

 

[Mister Wright]

Wow... Trescothick's got guts staying at the crease after that.

At least he didn't walk after not hitting it. The lesser of two evils.

 

[luckyeddie]

Quoted for posterity

You're a brave man, Marc.

As you said, the England team aren't very good at doing the 'lying down and rolling over' bit, but I'd not count any chickens

<quack> Or ducks

until they've hatched

<quack> One

one what?

<quack> duck

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Well, that balances out the shocker Martyn got away with in the first dig.

Not really, as the Martyn one wasn't at all convincing, the super slowmo showed that.

Trescothick's looked very much gone.

Ah well, who gives a turd, England have it wrapped up anyway.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

What is the wording about the spirit of the game?

How is that against the spirit of the game? Watson was injured, Hayden got subbed out for Hogg, and came on as 12th man for an injured player. Perfectly reasonable.

If you want to talk about the spirit of the game, look at Solanki the "sub without a sub".