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***Official*** NatWest Series/Challenge

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Jono said:
Well I guess he is then. :) No need to get bitter and take your frustration out with silly sarcasm.

50 up for England!
1. I'm writing the match report. If you think that will be anything other than impartial, then I'd be interested to know why.
2. I'm not frustrated - I'm probably old enough to be your grandfather and have seen it all before. Frustration is for children and Jason Gillespie - realism is for me.
3. My sarcasm is never silly. My silliness is often sarcastic, but never the other way around.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
luckyeddie said:
1. I'm writing the match report. If you think that will be anything other than impartial, then I'd be interested to know why.
2. I'm not frustrated - I'm probably old enough to be your grandfather and have seen it all before. Frustration is for children and Jason Gillespie - realism is for me.
3. My sarcasm is never silly. My silliness is often sarcastic, but never the other way around.
Where and why does your match report come into this, I have no idea, but good luck on that.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
FaaipDeOiad said:
Gillespie not bowling complete rubbish, but not great either. Symonds looks more dangerous to me.
That's what I thought - he still looks fairly impotent for mine (thank god, Warne will counter that in the tests), and there was a noticable reduction of pressure, although it's pretty hard to look rubbish on this pitch. I suppose Kasper is pretty much guaranteed to miss out for Lee's inclusion in the first test (and you're right, that will definitely happen, although it's probably been evident for a week or so), but Dizzy has been in pretty rotten form...
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Slow Love™ said:
That's what I thought - he still looks fairly impotent for mine (thank god, Warne will counter that in the tests), and there was a noticable reduction of pressure, although it's pretty hard to look rubbish on this pitch. I suppose Kasper is pretty much guaranteed to miss out for Lee's inclusion in the first test (and you're right, that will definitely happen, although it's probably been evident for a week or so), but Dizzy has been in pretty rotten form...
It may have been evident for a week or so, but it was on the cards in New Zealand too and didn't happen. I think the NWS final has clinched it personally, as it's the second time McGrath and Lee have destroyed England's top order in the NWS, and the selectors would be foolish not to capitalise on the hold they have over the openers in particular.

Speaking of the openers, as an English fan I'd be very worried indeed by the ease with which McGrath has worked out Trescothick (dismissed him all three times), and Lee seems to have the wood over Strauss as well with dismissals in two matches, with McGrath getting him in the other two. The England openers have looked great against Bangladesh, but hopeless against Australia.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Jono said:
Where and why does your match report come into this, I have no idea, but good luck on that.
Probably because I always write it as the match is in progress - and you suggesting that I might be bitter has just caused me to waste 10 minutes re-reading it 'just in case I was'. Naturally, it (the report) came through the test with flying colours, and I only used the word 'prat' in the same sentence as 'Ponting' on five occasions.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
These two have batted for almost 20 overs now!

RRR closing in on 6, and Symonds has just 3 overs left before the "fifth bowler" is gone. England need to get a few off him now, or they'll need to score off the specialists.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
FaaipDeOiad said:
These two have batted for almost 20 overs now!

RRR closing in on 6, and Symonds has just 3 overs left before the "fifth bowler" is gone. England need to get a few off him now, or they'll need to score off the specialists.
England need to do EXACTLY what they are doing at the moment. The 'need to score X' approach got them into this situation.

I'll settle for them needing 50 off 6 overs of Lee and McGrath if this two are still together, rather than trying to chase 6 an over from here on in and being all out for 100.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
luckyeddie said:
England need to do EXACTLY what they are doing at the moment. The 'need to score X' approach got them into this situation.

I'll settle for them needing 50 off 6 overs of Lee and McGrath if this two are still together, rather than trying to chase 6 an over from here on in and being all out for 100.
Yea, Australia's death bowling hasn't been great and I'd fancy them getting runs off Gillespie more than anyone else on at the moment.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
luckyeddie said:
England need to do EXACTLY what they are doing at the moment. The 'need to score X' approach got them into this situation.

I'll settle for them needing 50 off 6 overs of Lee and McGrath if this two are still together, rather than trying to chase 6 an over from here on in and being all out for 100.
Not suggesting they need to score 6 an over, just that getting 1 or 2 off each of Symonds remaining overs and relying on scoring off McGrath and Lee isn't a great idea. They just need to try and pick up singles.

They seem to be doing that anyway now, so it's all good. :)
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Gillespie back on for Hogg.. interesting move given that if Symonds had bowled out Gillespie could have replaced him and it would have hit the remaining overs perfectly leading up to Lee/McGrath at the death.

Now someone like Clarke or Hussey will need to bowl a bit.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Andrew "Gavin Larsen" Symonds goes for 23 from his 10. Can't complain about that.

3 more each from McGrath and Gillespie, and 4 from Lee. 6 more have to come from Hogg and the part timers.

One would assume Gillespie and Hogg would share the next 6, and then someone will have to fill in an over from Gillespie's end before Lee and McGrath return. Obviously the timing of these changes will depend on what England are doing.
 

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