*Official* India v West Indies Tests & ODIs

[vandemataram]

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What do you have against Bangar - you keep criticising him, and I can't see why! [/quote]

Because he said he was one of the best Indian Bowlers and I can't agree with that...or maybe he is [/quote]

Thats hard to believe since Bangar is a very modest person and he cannot come up with such an absurd statement!

I included Bangar because he seems to have done well in ODI lately, it would be better to have Bangar in team as a fifth bowler rather than having an extra batman in Mongia!

 

[marc71178]

I included Bangar because he seems to have done well in ODI lately, it would be better to have Bangar in team as a fifth bowler rather than having an extra batman in Mongia!

I was saying this 6 months ago, but not here unfortunately.

 

[lord_of_darkness]

yea bangar is the Craig White kinda bowler might i say or is he faster or slower ? but atleast he cant bat :P no offence but before i thought he would prove useless but he is doing some heavy work to get a permanent place in the squad

 

[V Reddy]

Rik when did he say that he is one of the best. He is a very modest person. He doesn't make a stupid statement like that.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I think Rik was saying that vandemataram said Bangar was on of the best bowlers....not Bangar himself

 

[vandemataram]

Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
I think Rik was saying that vandemataram said Bangar was on of the best bowlers....not Bangar himself

Oh yeah? and when did i ever said that??

Don't put words into my mouth , sir!

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by vandemataram

Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
I think Rik was saying that vandemataram said Bangar was on of the best bowlers....not Bangar himself

Oh yeah? and when did i ever said that??

Don't put words into my mouth , sir!

Errrm...I never said anything about Bangar saying anything. You, vandemataram, said that you put Bangar as one the top 5 bowlers in one of your earlier posts. Anyway I was referring to the lack of consistant Indian Pace Bowlers in both forms of the game...

 

[vandemataram]

Originally posted by Rik

Errrm...I never said anything about Bangar saying anything. You, vandemataram, said that you put Bangar as one the top 5 bowlers in one of your earlier posts. Anyway I was referring to the lack of consistant Indian Pace Bowlers in both forms of the game...

You should have read my post carefully, i had included Bangar as an AllROUNDER which i later explained as to why. Only a fool would go for 5 specialist bowler in a oneday without any allrounder, that would make the batting order very short!

 

[warrioryohannan]

That's correct, i mean a team like Australia have bowlers of the class of Flemming and Bracken yet they go for the likes of Watson and Symonds for the fifth bowler because they realise the importance of an allrounder in a oneday team!

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by vandemataram

Originally posted by Rik

Errrm...I never said anything about Bangar saying anything. You, vandemataram, said that you put Bangar as one the top 5 bowlers in one of your earlier posts. Anyway I was referring to the lack of consistant Indian Pace Bowlers in both forms of the game...

You should have read my post carefully, i had included Bangar as an AllROUNDER which i later explained as to why. Only a fool would go for 5 specialist bowler in a oneday without any allrounder, that would make the batting order very short!

Yes but I rate Bangar like Collingwood, ie. Not a good enough bowler to be one of the 5.

 

[vandemataram]

Unfortunately India doesn't have much options as far as allrounders are concerned, and i still think that going in with Bangar is better than going in with 7 specialists batmen and just 4 bowlers, which India had been doing untill somtime back

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by vandemataram

Unfortunately India doesn't have much options as far as allrounders are concerned, and i still think that going in with Bangar is better than going in with 7 specialists batmen and just 4 bowlers, which India had been doing untill somtime back

Yeah that's why I said "well maybe he is "

 

[Anil]

Originally posted by Rik

Originally posted by vandemataram

Unfortunately India doesn't have much options as far as allrounders are concerned, and i still think that going in with Bangar is better than going in with 7 specialists batmen and just 4 bowlers, which India had been doing untill somtime back

Yeah that's why I said "well maybe he is "

Bangar batted well in the recent series and there is always a chance that he might bowl better on the pace friendly pitches of NZ and SA than he did in India. Anyway, he has done enough to earn a place in the side. Keeping that place is upto him.

 

[Neil Pickup]

There is a huge risk in only playing four bowlers - if one has an off-day then that's nearly 20 overs to be filled by part-timers.

Can Bangar consistently bowl well for ten overs in ODI?

 

[Anil]

Originally posted by Neil Pickup
There is a huge risk in only playing four bowlers - if one has an off-day then that's nearly 20 overs to be filled by part-timers.

Can Bangar consistently bowl well for ten overs in ODI?

Probably not. It will be a combination of Bangar, Sehwag, maybe Ganguly, Yuvraj... The point is the Indian strength is its batting and the depth available. The bowling has always been weak. If we had a real corker of a bowler, it would make a difference replacing a batsman with him, but we don't. Bangar is handy with the bat, so he won't upset the equilibrium too much. If the Indians tinker with their batting lineup too much, they aren't going to make much of an impression in SA.

 

[marc71178]

Originally posted by Neil Pickup
There is a huge risk in only playing four bowlers - if one has an off-day then that's nearly 20 overs to be filled by part-timers.

Can Bangar consistently bowl well for ten overs in ODI?

In Indian conditions, probably not, but in SA or NZ, I think he can, and certainly when you look at some of the figures served up by the other bowlers, he can't do worse!

 

[Rik]

Originally posted by vandemataram

Unfortunately India doesn't have much options as far as allrounders are concerned, and i still think that going in with Bangar is better than going in with 7 specialists batmen and just 4 bowlers, which India had been doing untill somtime back

Sehwag seems to be doing a lot of bowling at the moment, although he never seems to be able to get through 10 overs because he conceeds loads of runs. What about Tendulkar and Ganguly though? Although Ganguly is usually useless, he and Tendulkar are useful ODI bowlers and could take up the extra bowler spot...and Tendulkar has a lower RPO than Agarkar...

 

[vandemataram]

Tendulkar/Ganguly/Sehwag can all bowl a bit, but one cannot always rely on them to bowl ten overs.And if India goes in with just 4 regular bowler, and one of those bowler, say Kartik or Harbhajan happen to have a bad day then India will have serious problem in having someone fill in for those bowlers.

 

[marc71178]

Sehwag seems to be doing a lot of bowling at the moment, although he never seems to be able to get through 10 overs because he conceeds loads of runs.

I noticed he'd been bowling a bit more in the last series, I reckon it's partly because the slower deliveries made it harder for the batsmen to score, partly because the wickets suited his bowling, and partly because there was no Tendulkar to fill in with a couple of overs here and there.

 

[vandemataram]

I don't think Sehwag will be that much sucessful in SA , i.e with the ball!