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*Official* India in Australia Thread

Salamuddin

International Debutant
The issue with Lee is his accuracy.

Yes he will intimidate the Indians if he bowls a good line and length.
However if they can get on top of him, he'll spray it around a fair bit.
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
furious_ged said:
Who would you replace him with?
Clark would have been selected for the test side. ( I think he is not in the test squad, then no way, give Katich one more chance...I feel he was underused in the match, could have been given more overs. )
CDAK
 

Craig

World Traveller
Australia have gone in with a unchanged team.

I think seeing Dravid and Laxman in full flight they are as elegant as anybody else in world cricket.

I think Ganguly needs to have a word with Shewag. That ball he got out to from Bracken in the 2nd innins wasnt that good except a very irresponsible shot.

I think India will back their chances at Sydney and Adelaide.
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
Bichel just had a bad game. It happens to everyone now and again. In his last match for Queensland he took 10 wickets for the match. I think it was because he hasn't been bowling long spells in FC cricket. Too much ODI and being on the fringes. It will be interesting to see if they do pick Lee and who they will leave out.

Bracken's success at one day and test level have been mirrored for NSW where he had been a good ING bowler and not so crah hot in the Pura cup. Lets not forget he was a contentueus choice for the tour of India and only because of he did well did he get a chance ahead of Williams.

Katich won't get dropped as they will use his excuse of needing his bowling in Adelaide.
 
But on that note, Adelaide could be the last straw for Katich. If he doesn't produce goods on a pitch conducive to what he has then he may find himself on the next boat to You've-been-dumped-for-Clarke-ville (I wish). Katich's test record isn't great and honestly isn't showing signs of improving. If he can't bowl at Adelaide and fails again with the batting I think he's out.
Perhaps the pitch wasn't that great to bat on but given the form he was supposedly in and the situation Australia was in a better temperament was required from him. Clarke has already shown internationally he has the right temperament and he can handle pressure. That's one thing people have been worried about with him, that he's not ready. But he's stepped up to the pressure brilliantly.

I'd even accept a Martin Love recall, but I just don't want Katich there. He's been given another chance and he's not done enough.

Other people's Katich thoughts please..?
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
Yeah I think Martin Love will be given another go if katich fails. Still I can see them sticking with him until Sydney where the conditions will again be favourable.

My only problem with Michael Clarke is that I would like to see him back up with another big year in the Pura Cup. he should then be picked for the tours to Sri Lanka and India as backup batsman for the experiance. He really had only had 1 good season. Many other players have done this and then faded away. (Corey Richards anyone) Still going on what I have seen, he will play test cricket sooner than later.
 
It really sh*ts me that Katich leapfrogged Love and Clarke out of nowhere. He's not justified it at all. His average now stands at a fearful 27-odd (and for those who praise his bowling, I'm talking about his batting average).

It's Love or Clarke IMO, Katich doesn't fit in anywhere.
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
jamesryfler said:
The issue with Lee is his accuracy.

Yes he will intimidate the Indians if he bowls a good line and length.
However if they can get on top of him, he'll spray it around a fair bit.
I totally agree with u.
According to me, Lee is not as dangerous as Australians think.He can intimidate batsmen in onedayers,but in test its a diffrent issue, against dominating batsmen.McGrath is a difficult customer to be handled with because of his accuracy.(same with Shaun Pollock and Mohd sami.). Sheer pace will not work against quality batsmen.(Lee's and Shoib's test careers are examples.)
Gillespi is having the accuracy, but the difficulty factor is the height from which he delivers the ball.Gillespi gets most of his wickets due to the batsman's miscalculation of the bounce.Normally, his deliveries won't bounce to a level where it should be, comparing the bowler's height.sachin finds it difficult most of the time(he is a poor player of the ball which is keeping low. Cronje had effectively used it,)
Probably Aus may win one match when they include their good bowlers, but not all.
CDAk
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
furious_ged said:
It really sh*ts me that Katich leapfrogged Love and Clarke out of nowhere. He's not justified it at all. His average now stands at a fearful 27-odd (and for those who praise his bowling, I'm talking about his batting average).

It's Love or Clarke IMO, Katich doesn't fit in anywhere.
Yes, Clarke is a greatly talented guy.It was really impressive and admirable the way in which he batted in the TVS cup final where it was difficult to make stroke on slow balls. He got the ease of Chris Cairn in stroke making and the quick leraning of Sachin(to decide what shot which ball) and a good bowling talent. I was really surprised to know he was not includede in test team.
But the most indigestable thing in Aus cricket is the omission of the best aus batsman I've ever seen, from test cricket,....Micheal Bevan. He is better than Hayden on many aspects. If he had been given more chances, simply he would have become more consistent than Sachin even more stylish.He got all the shots in his armoury.I like his off-drive by sitting on the back leg knee with the follow-through come to the shoulder level.He should heve been there in place of style-less Damien Martin or Katich.
CDAK
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
furious_ged said:

Other people's Katich thoughts please..?
Haven't seen much of him, but that was a very unconvincing innings with most of the runs coming off the edge.

On a general note, the most positive thing for India must be the fact that they made 400+ with no contribution from Dravid and Tendulkar. Ganguly and Laxman batted beautifully. I still think Ganguly will have his fair share of failures in the series, but Laxman could prove to be a dominant figure.

Unfortunately, I still can't see India taking 20 wickets (in 1 test match that is). I think their best hope in this respect is to bat first, pile up a huge score, and hope that the "scoreboard pressure" tells on the Aussies. The bowlers themselves won't be able to apply much pressure if they continue to let Australia bound along at 4 and a half an over.
 

iamdavid

International Debutant
furious_ged said:
It really sh*ts me that Katich leapfrogged Love and Clarke out of nowhere. He's not justified it at all. His average now stands at a fearful 27-odd (and for those who praise his bowling, I'm talking about his batting average).

It's Love or Clarke IMO, Katich doesn't fit in anywhere.
Wow , whats up you're ass:P

Clarke's time will come , when Waugh retires they will be looking for someone younger.

If he has a close to decent Pura Cup year then he is a near certainty.

As for Katich he deserves his chance , he's in top form & he's a real nice guy , when Lehmann was injured they needed a like for like replacement , someone who could bowl a few overs of spin , bat at 6 & feild under the helmet.
Katich fills the criteria , Clarke possibly does even better as he is more a number 6 than Katich , but after taking 6-65 & making 52 he is undropable , I reckon he'll cement a place this summer , or at least I hope.
I rate him & Clarke higher than Love.
 
He's not undroppable. He's in the side to bat predominantly, and when a batsman/part time bowler's most notable achievement in test cricket is a bowling performance there is a problem.

In the last test is did absolutely f*ck all, therefore by that logic (and the fact that it's recent), he is droppable.
If he's undroppable after one test he can be droppable after the next.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
furious_ged said:
Seriously, what are you on? Martyn is probably the classiest, most stylish batsman in the Aussie lineup.
he deffinatly is the most elegant stylish batsman in the aussie team.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Beven IMO has sorted out any problems he once had against the short ball. In pura cup and even in ODI's he plays the hook and pull quite well these days.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
amits said:
ind bowled out aus for 323 whereas aus bowled out ind for hold ur breath - 409 :lol:
Without rain on the 1st day, Aus would've made around about 409 for 3 or 4 wickets.

The conditions for batting seem ot have had a bit of an effect as well?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
CDAK said:
Again, India needed to be there for holding aus in a draw out of the last 22 tests.
Rain did that, not the Indian team.


CDAK said:
To score highest run in a day against aus, again India...
351 runs in 99 overs against a very-much understrength attack - not so good as you make it sound!
 

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