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*Official* India in Australia Thread

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
amits said:
but still, well played ganguly, zaheer and laxman. if at all there can be a winner in this match, it has certainly got to be, india.
As proven by their excellent 1st Day, where but for rain they'd have all but lost the match in one go!
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
CDAK said:
Obviously rain had played some roles in the final result.,but remember ,irrespective of losing time ,Aus had won many tests and not ended in draw.
But those games are usually a full 5 days, not just over 3, that's the point, it was in all effect a 3 day game, but Aus didn't know that when the game started, so couldn't approach it in the right manner.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Have to give India credit though they may have had the conditions in there favor but they still had to bowl in the right area's.
 

Linda

International Vice-Captain
furious_ged said:
Seriously, what are you on? Martyn is probably the classiest, most stylish batsman in the Aussie lineup.
FOR SURE. :D

I dont see why indian supporters are deflating our loss of 3 frontline bowlers.. I'd like to see your excuses if you were in the same situation.

But hey, Im not undermining the Indian batsmen, they played very well in the conditions. Good on them for scaring the Aussies abit, I just dont think it will last long. In the TVS cup, even though it was OD, the Aussies lost the first game and then wallopped the rest of the game to the ground, perhaps we will see the same thing, perhaps not.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
furious_ged said:
It really sh*ts me that Katich leapfrogged Love and Clarke out of nowhere. He's not justified it at all.
How did he leapfrog Clarke for a Test spot? Neither was in prime position!

And he was selected as he offers something that was missing with Lehmann out.
 
Clarke was closer than Katich, that therefore constitutes a leapfrog.

Clarke is a thinner, fitter, younger, better version of Lehmann. What more do you want?
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
furious_ged said:
Clarke was closer than Katich, that therefore constitutes a leapfrog.

Clarke is a thinner, fitter, younger, better version of Lehmann. What more do you want?
he will get his chance.

Just take it easy. there is no doubt in my mind he could do with a little more time at FC level.

We have the luxuary of not needing to rush talent in the minute we see it somthing alot of countrys do before the player is ready.

He will be better off in the long run if we give him a little more time in the pura cup IMO.
 

Linda

International Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
Katich had played in Tests before.
Yeah 2, which I wouldnt exactly call experienced.

However, Trev Hohns called Clarke the next batsmen in line for Waughs replacement. They want a young guy, so I guess Katich and Love are merely fill-in-for-now kinda players.
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
Clarke needs to have a big summer to be next in line. Too many other players are scoring heaps of runs - Hodge, Love, Katich, Hussey etc.
 

Go_India

School Boy/Girl Captain
India will soon win a test and i can see them win....i hope Mcgrath and other aus strike bowlers come back otherwise tendulkar and co will destroy the bowling line-up apart.
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
marc71178 said:
But those games are usually a full 5 days, not just over 3, that's the point, it was in all effect a 3 day game, but Aus didn't know that when the game started, so couldn't approach it in the right manner.
Are you determined to pick fault with every positive comment made about India's performance?!

They took 8 Aussie wickets for 60-odd runs in the first innings and then recovered from 60-odd for 3 and the loss, for a total of 1 run (I think), of their 2 best batsmen to CREAM the Aussie bowlers (Gillespie excepted) all over the Gabba.

I accept that some Indian fans on the forum - well, Amits - can get things a little out of perspective, but India are due a lot of credit for their performance.

I would guess I'm not the only one finding your incessant sniping and arrogant nostradamus impression - "Without rain on the 1st day Aus would've made around about 409 for 3 or 4 wickets" - a bit irritating.
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
garage flower said:
Are you determined to pick fault with every positive comment made about India's performance?!

They took 8 Aussie wickets for 60-odd runs in the first innings and then recovered from 60-odd for 3 and the loss, for a total of 1 run (I think), of their 2 best batsmen to CREAM the Aussie bowlers (Gillespie excepted) all over the Gabba.

I accept that some Indian fans on the forum - well, Amits - can get things a little out of perspective, but India are due a lot of credit for their performance.

I would guess I'm not the only one finding your incessant sniping and arrogant nostradamus impression - "Without rain on the 1st day Aus would've made around about 409 for 3 or 4 wickets" - a bit irritating.
Exactly.This was what i wanted to say.
CDAK
 

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
amits said:
1st test - draw :!(

india, with just 199 runs to win in 23 overs, should have definitely tried for a win. 199 in 23 overs is gettable provided u have all 10 wickets intact.

but still, well played ganguly, zaheer and laxman. if at all there can be a winner in this match, it has certainly got to be, india.

the chances of india winning this series r far more than what even the indians think. india, atleast according to me r the overwhelming favs for the series.

i think, based on current form and performances, it will be a 2-1 win to india to be realistic. on an optimistic note, i believe it will be ind 3-0

dreaming about aus winning 3-0 is now wishful thinking. aus have lost a lot of confidence after this 1st test and as i said - "only rain can save australia"
amits, that Aus second innings tells it all. Batting on roughly the same pitch as the Indians in their first innings, Hayden finished on 99, Aus declaring on 286/3 with 23 overs to spare. Had that been a normal 2nd innings, had they been 70 down after two and a half days, they'd gone on to make something in the region of 500, and set a target of 430. No way had the Indian bowlers managed to take wickets again. Of course the Indian bowlers had a good 2nd day, but mainly due to help from the pitch.

Still, that 409 in the first innings shows that there is batting talent, but the bowling line-up is just too weak for India to get wickets in this match (and besides, you're the one complaining about Parthiv - if he's such a poor keeper, he shouldn't be able to grab catches, that's another advantage to Australia).

3-0 to Australia is still realistic, bar rain again. And 3-0 to India, well, sorry mate, Norway will beat England at cricket before that happens.
 

CDAK

U19 Debutant
marc71178 said:
But those games are usually a full 5 days, not just over 3, that's the point, it was in all effect a 3 day game, but Aus didn't know that when the game started, so couldn't approach it in the right manner.
What would have happened if Sourav and Laxman hadn't batted like that?Sure, aus would have won in 3 days.Then, u might not have said "they couldn't approach in the right manner"..
CDAK
 
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CDAK

U19 Debutant
furious_ged said:
Seriously, what are you on? Martyn is probably the classiest, most stylish batsman in the Aussie lineup.
I don't know what do u call "style"?According to me ,Damien is a good batsman who executes shots in good timing,but with no style at all.There's a missing beautyfactor.For style( in my view)u should watch the following players when they are in flow.Sachin,Dravid,Laxman, sehwag,Azhar,Youhanna,Attappattu,tilakaratne,Beven,Slater,Mark waugh,Lara,Gayle,Rudolph, Cronje etc..
But for those without beauty in batting example are Treskothik,Gary Kirsten,Chanderpaul,Inzamam,S'Fleming etc.
So I seriously meant Damien Martin lacks style.
CDAK
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
CDAK said:
I don't know what do u call "style"?According to me ,Damien is a good batsman who executes shots in good timing,but with no style at all.There's a missing beautyfactor.For style( in my view)u should watch the following players when they are in flow.Sachin,Dravid,Laxman, sehwag,Azhar,Youhanna,Attappattu,tilakaratne,Beven,Slater,Mark waugh,Lara,Gayle,Rudolph, Cronje etc..
But for those without beauty in batting example are Treskothik,Gary Kirsten,Chanderpaul,Inzamam,S'Fleming etc.
So I seriously meant Damien Martin lacks style.
CDAK
I have to agree, I don't find any of the Aussue batsmen particularly stylish. "Brutal" is more apt for most of them.

I enjoyed Laxman's 1st innings knock more than any I've seen for a while. Sarwan is stylish when he gets going and I really enjoy Butcher in full flow.
 

garage flower

State Vice-Captain
Was anybody else really impressed by Chopra's 1st innings knock? He looks to me to be - potentially - just the kind of rock solid opener India need to counter balance the stroke players.

Credit to Patel too, though apparently he missed a stumping. Rode his luck with the bat, but looks pretty good technically.
 

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