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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The problem for Arsenal isnt so much the physical aproach it is well organised sides playing with two banks of four such as Villa on the opening day of the season that Arsenal fail to break down. When they play at their very best they will beat sides like that but if they arent at a very high level their style of play means that they do not come away with the result. The lack of a plan B in these sort of matches is still a problem for Arsenal and I dont see them beating Chelsea for the title.
 

Craig

World Traveller
With ManU up there with the moment with Chelsea, does anybody really expect them to stay up there for the whole season? One thing is for certain is that they need another striker, although some of the best are European cup-tied and they need some midfielders, but Senna and/or Hargreaves are cup tied for Europe anyway so that could be a negative.

Luca Toni perhaps?
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Craig said:
With ManU up there with the moment with Chelsea, does anybody really expect them to stay up there for the whole season? One thing is for certain is that they need another striker, although some of the best are European cup-tied and they need some midfielders, but Senna and/or Hargreaves are cup tied for Europe anyway so that could be a negative.

Luca Toni perhaps?
Tbh I still don't hold out much hope of winning the title, but of the chasing pack I think we've the best chance by far.

WRT your strikers point I disagree - while Saha misses a lot of chances, it is his pace and movement that creates them ITFP, so he gets more chances than most anyway. Plus Rooney will come good given time.

In the midfield, we need someone of the Roy Keane mold IMO. Carrick and Scholes are exceptional players in their own right, but they don't do the job Keane did.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Tom Halsey said:
Tbh I still don't hold out much hope of winning the title, but of the chasing pack I think we've the best chance by far.

WRT your strikers point I disagree - while Saha misses a lot of chances, it is his pace and movement that creates them ITFP, so he gets more chances than most anyway. Plus Rooney will come good given time.

In the midfield, we need someone of the Roy Keane mold IMO. Carrick and Scholes are exceptional players in their own right, but they don't do the job Keane did.
How is Carrick exceptional?

I agree Man utd are probably the best placed side for second place because they play football that suits the Premiership and will beat most of the sides most of the time. In terms of personel Arsenal are as good if not better and at their best are superior. I agree about Saha he gives a lot to the side and Giggs and Scholes are both looking back near their best.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Pothas said:
How is Carrick exceptional?
At what Carrick does (spray long passes around) Carrick is exceptional, however my point is that he isn't exceptional at what we really need at the moment - a holding midfielder IMO.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
Fourth Round Draw
Notts County vs. Wycombe Wanderers
Tottenham Hotspur vs. Port Vale
Chelsea vs. Aston Villa
Watford vs. Newcastle United
Chesterfield vs. Charlton
Southend United vs. Manchester United
Everton vs. Arsenal

Couple of big ties in there that could be interesting enough.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Tom Halsey said:
At what Carrick does (spray long passes around) Carrick is exceptional, however my point is that he isn't exceptional at what we really need at the moment - a holding midfielder IMO.
Holding midfielder is only necessary against Arsenal and Chelsea IMO and a passion filled Liverpool.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Craig said:
With ManU up there with the moment with Chelsea, does anybody really expect them to stay up there for the whole season? One thing is for certain is that they need another striker, although some of the best are European cup-tied and they need some midfielders, but Senna and/or Hargreaves are cup tied for Europe anyway so that could be a negative.

Luca Toni perhaps?
Umm no Toni is too old. Personal reasons or not Ruud was getting old and slowing down the play and Toni's not far behind in age and style of play I think. Solskjaer's old but hje can finish as well as provide decent movement. That's primarily why Torres' name has been bandied around but I think Rossi's a better finisher and isn't too far behind in everything else. Torres is clearly better though in other disciplines though to finishing.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
roseboy64 said:
Holding midfielder is only necessary against Arsenal and Chelsea IMO and a passion filled Liverpool.
Giving up on Europe totally, then? It's for the best, I think. :p

More seriously tho, Carrick's been dead-set ordinary for United so far. Hasn't looked half the player he did for the spuds.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
roseboy64 said:
That's primarily why Torres' name has been bandied around but I think Rossi's a better finisher and isn't too far behind in everything else. Torres is clearly better though in other disciplines though to finishing.
Make your mind up.

1 sentence you make the quite stupid (blinkered) comment that Rossi is too far behind Torres, then in the next sentence you say Torres is clearly better.

I'd love to know on what you base the first sentence, is it because one is on the books of Man United, because it can't be anything else.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
marc71178 said:
Make your mind up.

1 sentence you make the quite stupid (blinkered) comment that Rossi is too far behind Torres, then in the next sentence you say Torres is clearly better.

I'd love to know on what you base the first sentence, is it because one is on the books of Man United, because it can't be anything else.
I said Rossi's a better finisher but Torresis better in other departments. I'm not the only one who's said Rossi's probably the best finisher at Man Utd. Overall Torres is clearly better though. Thought that was clear.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
BoyBrumby said:
Giving up on Europe totally, then? It's for the best, I think. :p

More seriously tho, Carrick's been dead-set ordinary for United so far. Hasn't looked half the player he did for the spuds.
So true about Carrick. I'll reserve judgement though till next season. Took Evra and Vidic a while to settel in so Michael shall be afforded time as well.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
roseboy64 said:
I said Rossi's a better finisher but Torresis better in other departments. I'm not the only one who's said Rossi's probably the best finisher at Man Utd. Overall Torres is clearly better though. Thought that was clear.
Actually what you said was:

That's primarily why Torres' name has been bandied around but I think Rossi's a better finisher and isn't too far behind in everything else.

So in other words you're saying he's not far off one of the best strikers in the world.

If that's not blinkered then what is?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
roseboy64 said:
So true about Carrick. I'll reserve judgement though till next season. Took Evra and Vidic a while to settel in so Michael shall be afforded time as well.
Yes, but they have the excuse of having to come from a foreign country and adapt to a lot of things all at once.
 

Craig

World Traveller
roseboy64 said:
Umm no Toni is too old. Personal reasons or not Ruud was getting old and slowing down the play and Toni's not far behind in age and style of play I think. Solskjaer's old but hje can finish as well as provide decent movement. That's primarily why Torres' name has been bandied around but I think Rossi's a better finisher and isn't too far behind in everything else. Torres is clearly better though in other disciplines though to finishing.
Well you have next to chance of signing young Fernando, unless Fergie is prepared to pay more for Torres then what he did Rooney, Adriano is on a holiday ATM, Miroslav Klose would be a good fit but Werder would not sell, especially in January.

And Toni is 29, you make it sounds like he is 31 or 32.

If you have any better realistic options then I would like to here it.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
On the topic of Rossi he scored his first goal for Newcastle yesterday in the carling cup win over Pompey.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Actually what you said was:

That's primarily why Torres' name has been bandied around but I think Rossi's a better finisher and isn't too far behind in everything else.

So in other words you're saying he's not far off one of the best strikers in the world.

If that's not blinkered then what is?

cmon Marc, they guy is pushing Shola Ameobi hard for a starting spot at Newcastle, that clearly shows near enough at Torrres' level.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
superkingdave said:
cmon Marc, they guy is pushing Shola Ameobi hard for a starting spot at Newcastle, that clearly shows near enough at Torrres' level.
ha, funny dawg..
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Football question?

Who do reckon is the best young player in the world between Rooney, Torres, Robinho & Messi?

Had an argument in school with some friends and not being biased towards Wazza but based on what i've seen of all of them i say Rooney is slightly better out of all of them he can muscle past defenders of use his skills are go past them and at his pest he just tips Torres as the more lethal finisher, Robinho has the most pace and is more versatile in that he can play as a foward or on both wings and look comfortable, while neither of the 4 from what i've seen are that great in the air.

I'll say Robinho & Messi are over-rated in the sense that they were touted as the next Pele & Marodona which is undestandable, but they are top-class and the next generation stars no doubt.
 

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