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*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

Neil Pickup

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Joey's got #11 booked in my eyes. The only disputed positions I can see ahead of Germany is who are the two CBs (Ferdinand and Terry as Sol doesn't appear to be able to manage longer than a month injury free any more) and whether the big three can work together in midfield or whether Carrick/Parker get the nod in front of Gerrard/Lampard. SWP won't be starting until the final touches are applied to his game; like crossing. Hopefully José can do that like he did with Joey.

That leaves: Robinson - Neville, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand - Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Cole - Rooney, Owen
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
aussie said:
true true, but i'll hope for the best, here's another suggestion who do you think should be the second central defender between Ferdinand & Campbell?
Ferdinand, on the assumption that his form will improve - if it doesn't, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the team.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
Well last I saw it was his ball for the first goal.

He was also dangerous running to the area and slipping passes in and around.
We're talking about normal open play, not some ill-directed snapshot from a corner. In normal open play he barely created anything despite having a lot of the ball and beating players.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Teletext:

SVEN DROPS SMITH HINT

Sven-Goran Eriksson has hinted Alan Smith may force his way into England's World Cup midfield, despite Ledley King's fine display against Poland.

Spurs defender King earned plaudits for his central-midfield role, especially as it gave license to Frank Lampard.

But Eriksson said: "Another is Alan Smith. I'm curious to see how he'll be in seven months. He's now a midfielder and getting better and better."


What does Eriksson have to do to get sacked? Alan Smith started off rubbish, has been converted to a midfielder and is still rubbish. This sort of thing just shows how clueless Eriksson is, I think he just looks at the big teams, says to himself oh he's English and then picks them - I'd be amazed if it gets any deeper than that.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Destination Germany

bmp, Interesting Article this:


England jet off to the 2006 World Cup next summer, having booked their place with a game to go.

Victory against Austria, along with Holland's win over the Czech Republic, was enough to confirm England's ticket to next year's tournament.

Sven-Goran Eriksson's men eventually finished top of their World Cup qualifying group with a vibrant 2-1 triumph over Poland.

But which players have earned their plane tickets to Germany and who will be left in the departure lounge?



ON THE PLANE

Keepers: Paul Robinson
Defenders: Gary Neville, Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry
Midfield: David Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Ledley King
Strikers: Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney, Jermain Defoe
Barring injury or a major loss of form, Eriksson appears to have at least nine of his line-up already confirmed.

Paul Robinson has established himself as the number one goalkeeper, with David James now seemingly out of the running, while Gary Neville and Ashley Cole have the full-back places nailed down.

At centre-half, Eriksson will most likely pick two from Sol Campbell, Rio Ferdinand and John Terry.

However, while skipper David Beckham's place in the midfield looks assured, there seem to be fresh doubts over the Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard partnership.

England's final qualifying match threw up some intriguing posers for Eriksson, with the Gerrard-less midfield displaying better balance than in recent memory, thanks to defender Ledley King.

HOW ENGLAND COULD LOOK

Feature: Eriksson's dilemma
King anchored the midfield perfectly, leaving Lampard to the role he performs best - setting up attacks, arriving in danger areas and scoring goals.

One way to accommodate the Spurs captain in Eriksson's starting line-up would be to change to a 4-1-3-1-1 formation, with King dropping behind Beckham, Lampard and Gerrard.

This would differ from the 4-4-2 formation - where the troublesome left-wing position has been occupied recently by Joe Cole, who has also shown himself to be a useful squad player.

Up front, Michael Owen and Wayne Rooney are likely to continue their partnership, while Jermain Defoe has probably already done enough to book his place and will be looking to try and push for a starting role.


IN THE DEPARTURE LOUNGE

Keepers: Chris Kirkland
Defenders: Jamie Carragher, Matthew Upson, Glenn Johnson, Wayne Bridge, Luke Young
Midfield: Phil Neville, Owen Hargreaves, Jermaine Jenas, Michael Carrick, Kieron Dyer, Stewart Downing, Kieran Richardson
Strikers: Andy Johnson, Peter Crouch

While Eriksson seems to have the bulk of his key players already formed in his mind, there are still plenty of places up for grabs.

Chris Kirkland's solid form between the posts on loan at West Brom has also seen him establish himself as England's number two behind Robinson, despite niggling back problems.

In defence, Jamie Carragher is likely to receive the call if he continues his impressive form with Liverpool from last season.

Wayne Bridge spent the end of last season sidelined by injury and now faces a battle for a first-team place at Chelsea but he has probably done enough to earn a place as Ashley Cole's back-up.

Phil Neville has been a regular in Eriksson's squad because of his versatility, while holding midfielder Owen Hargreaves is also a Sven favourite.

Jermaine Jenas and left-wing pair Stewart Downing and Kieran Richardson all look to have a promising future with England.

Crystal Palace striker Andy Johnson will have to hope that Eriksson is not put off by him playing below Premiership level, while Liverpool's Peter Crouch might still be hoping that his England career can take off after some mediocre performances.


WAITING BY THE PHONE

Keepers: Robert Green, David James
Defenders: Jonathan Woodgate, Michael Dawson, Wes Brown
Midfield: Wayne Routledge, Nicky Butt, Aaron Lennon
Strikers: Alan Smith, Darren Bent, Darius Vassell, Emile Heskey
Keeper Robert Green earned some recognition for his performances at Norwich but playing in the Championship might hinder his chances.

David James' poor second-half display against Denmark may prove costly as he looks to have slipped down the pecking order.

Real Madrid defender Jonathan Woodgate has also suffered because of his injury problems, while Wes Brown is battling back to fitness after a long spell out and Nicky Butt's England career has gone south since he left Manchester United for Birmingham.

Up front, with Eriksson likely to only take four strikers to Germany, the World Cup wannabes will have to really shine if they are to make the trip to next summer's main event.

However, Darren Bent is earning rave reviews at Charlton, while Alan Smith is still struggling to learn where he fits in at Manchester United.
 

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Craig

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Also IMO Jamie Carragher would be very unlucky not to be picked for Germany and would be a near certainty to go.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Green will be the 3rd choice keeper more than likely (although if he doesn't play any Internationals between now and then, I'd take the experience of James ahead of him)

Woodgate needs to stay fit for 9 months - so that's ruled out.

Bent will more than likely have a couple of games in friendlies and that will rule him one way or the other - I'd say at this stage, it's out.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
Green will be the 3rd choice keeper more than likely (although if he doesn't play any Internationals between now and then, I'd take the experience of James ahead of him)

Woodgate needs to stay fit for 9 months - so that's ruled out.

Bent will more than likely have a couple of games in friendlies and that will rule him one way or the other - I'd say at this stage, it's out.
1. Fair enough

2. Ruled out of the world cup entirely?

3. Same question has 2?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Craig said:
Also IMO Jamie Carragher would be very unlucky not to be picked for Germany and would be a near certainty to go.
He was a liability against Poland, he's just too inept on the ball and he'd be very lucky to make the squad.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Scaly piscine said:
He was a liability against Poland, he's just too inept on the ball and he'd be very lucky to make the squad.
I'd say he's a shoe-in myself. He covers every position in the back 4 & (at a big push) can play in midfield too. Sven likes flexibility.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
BoyBrumby said:
I'd say he's a shoe-in myself. He covers every position in the back 4 & (at a big push) can play in midfield too. Sven likes flexibility.
Yes I'm sure he's equally useless in all of those positions. He's not international class, but then Alan Smith isn't even Premiership class and the vegetable likes him.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Scaly piscine said:
Yes I'm sure he's equally useless in all of those positions. He's not international class, but then Alan Smith isn't even Premiership class and the vegetable likes him.
That's harsh (on Carragher, I mean); he's a decent centre-half, but Campbell & Terry are better. I personally think Carragher is a better defensive centre-half than Rio, but the fact that Rio looks "comfortable" on the ball gives everyone a hard-on for him.

I don't rate Smith either, as I've said before, but I think he'll probably go because of his (alleged) flexibility. If I were picking the squad he wouldn't but, well, I'm not! :p
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Scaly piscine said:
He was a liability against Poland, he's just too inept on the ball and he'd be very lucky to make the squad.
Well, I think the fact that he was the Champions' League's best defender last season should see him through.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Barney Rubble said:
Well, I think the fact that he was the Champions' League's best defender last season should see him through.
What a ludicrous statement - was this the Liverpool who conceded 3 in the final?

Carragher is just a hard working, honest plodder - you need more than that at international level.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Scaly piscine said:
What a ludicrous statement - was this the Liverpool who conceded 3 in the final?

Carragher is just a hard working, honest plodder - you need more than that at international level.
The 3 they conceded in the Final were the midfield's fault for giving Kaka too much space, Carragher could do nothing about that. They kept clean sheets against Chelsea (twice) and Juventus (in Turin) with others in the group stages too, and if you'd watched any of the games you'd know that Carragher was nothing short of outstanding in all of them, against a plethora of world-class players.
 

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