*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

[Loony BoB]

Same can be said for a lot of players - "when they're at they're best..." - Ferdinand hasn't been near his best in the past couple of months. He's still great, don't get me wrong, I would never say otherwise. I just think that Brown deserved a shot in this game as Rio wasn't showing the goods, much like it has been in the past 3-4 months when it comes to defending (I will concede that Rio is far better when it comes to playing up the pitch, even now). Why bring a player into a squad for the first time in a year if you're not even going to play him?

 

[roseboy64]

For fun?

 

[Craig]

Irrelevant, although they did have more money in the Championship.

The fact remains that if they hadn't had the money they wouldn't be where they are now.

So and how else are you going to go up or be successfull?

If you have a committed backer and you have the money to buy the players that help you go up. If a some sugar daddy brought Coventry, wiped out any debts (like the new stadium?) amd brought them int othe EPL you would hardly complain would you?

I suppose if it wasn't for the money Chelsea would still have one Championship win, Juventus wouldn't have the Scudetto last season, which applies for Barcelona and other successfull team.

Are you a perenial whinger?

 

[marc71178]

I just don't like the way Wigan are being portrayed as this plucky little side when they're only there because of the money.

There are managers proving you can do it without the money at the moment.

 

[Craig]

So and are you losing sleep over this?

And true the money helped, as I said above, the fact that they are being portrayed as you said is because they are doing a lot better then expected, let's face it how many of us had them at this time of the season to be down with Sunderland and going back down where they came from? And this is proven by the fact they have made their first ever Cup Final in their first season up.

 

[sledger]

yea on form yea, but Rio at his best is much better.

not better than carragher as marc says imo.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Darren Bent > Jermain Defoe
Shaun Wright-Phillips > David Beckham
and, the big one....

Gerrard + Carrick > Gerrard + Lampard

(PS: That does NOT mean Carrick > Lampard.)

Discuss.

 

[Scaly piscine]

It could be that

Lampard + Carrick > Gerrard + Carrick > Gerrard + Lampard

But this does NOT mean Carrick > Lampard > Gerrard


Also, Downing + Lampard + Carrick + J Cole > J Cole + Lampard + Gerrard + Beckham

But in this case you can make this conclusion:

Anyone > Beckham.

 

[Loony BoB]

I thought Beckham had a fairly decent game, personally.

 

[Barney Rubble]

I thought Beckham had a fairly decent game, personally.

Yeah, he was alright - but that's all he's been for the last five years, really.

 

[marc71178]

Darren Bent > Jermain Defoe
Shaun Wright-Phillips > David Beckham
and, the big one....

Gerrard + Carrick > Gerrard + Lampard

(PS: That does NOT mean Carrick > Lampard.)

Discuss.

Middle one is a load of rubbish.

 

[Loony BoB]

Yeah, he was alright - but that's all he's been for the last five years, really.

You can't blame him for the lack of players running onto his brilliantly placed crosses. He put them right where he should have last night - just nobody got onto them. SWP isn't the answer as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Middle one is a load of rubbish.

What exactly can Beckham do that SWP can't? Granted, Beckham can swing a great cross in, but he crosses from such deep positions that Owen struggles to get on the end of them anyway. With SWP crossing from the byline, it gives not only Owen, but the likes of Gerrard/Lampard/Rooney making late runs the chance to get on the end of the cross as well. SWP's faster than Beckham, his workrate is as good, he's a better dribbler, he holds his position far better (witness Beckham popping up out of position all the damn time last night), he's got more than one foot. Terry or Gerrard would make a far superior captain to Beckham anyway.

I'm not saying Beckham's not good - just that SWP fits the rest of our side better. If Crouch were playing, Beckham's deep crosses would be of far more use.

 

[Barney Rubble]

You can't blame him for the lack of players running onto his brilliantly placed crosses. He put them right where he should have last night - just nobody got onto them. SWP isn't the answer as far as I'm concerned.

See above post for solution to no-one getting on the end of his crosses.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Yeah, he was alright - but that's all he's been for the last five years, really.

Yea, he's not been any better than alright for the past five years and everytime he ballses something up he goes into blue-bummed fly mode and does a pub league tackle on someone (he'll get sent off again for England I think at some point). Also I think teams have him sussed, they know all they have to do is get in the way of a right footed pass/cross etc. and he goes back on himself because he daren't use his left foot or he's not going to take the player on. He breaks up the attacking momentum when he does this

 

[steds]

It could be that

Lampard + Carrick > Gerrard + Carrick > Gerrard + Lampard

But this does NOT mean Carrick > Lampard > Gerrard


Also, Downing + Lampard + Carrick + J Cole > J Cole + Lampard + Gerrard + Beckham

But in this case you can make this conclusion:

Anyone > Beckham.

I agree with all of that ()

 

[simmy]

Better take back all the bad stuff I said about Crouch!

 

[simmy]

All this talk about Carrick is a load or rubbish. Can't base it all on one game.

 

[roseboy64]

For Real Madrid Beckham seems to get to the byline though. Guess it's the system. With him and Cicinho swapping when the latter gets the urge to run forward.

 

[Scaly piscine]

All this talk about Carrick is a load or rubbish. Can't base it all on one game.

To a degree yes, but the fact it's only one game is the vegetable's fault. I dunno if it was true or not but apparently he's been in every England squad for the last 4 years - but obviously he's not played much for England. He did look like he had the technical ability to be able to play at that level and as the 'pundits' on BBC said he always looked like he had time when he had the ball. This compares with the likes of Beckham and SWP who always seem to be a bit manic and frequently have a bad touch.