*Official* English Football Season 2005-06

[luckyeddie]

Rooney had absolutely no impact on the match today (I thought he was quite disappointing).

1st half, Burton had the best of. 2nd half (even before Rooney was brought on) we had the best of.

You weren't watching the same game as me then. Rooney rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in - something most of the prima-donnas were just too classy to do.

I agree that United had the best of the second half - you and the rest of Essex should be very proud of that ( ).

 

[Tom Halsey]

You weren't watching the same game as me then. Rooney rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in - something most of the prima-donnas were just too classy to do.

Got stuck in, fair enough, but he didn't change the game at all.

 

[roseboy64]

Pique, Bardsley, Jones and Rossi are reserves.

Howard, Brown, Silvestre, O'Shea, Richardson, Saha and Rooney aren't.

The problem I have is that he's not giving Albion any credit.

You assumed wrong there. Burton played well. Thoroughly deserved the draw and maybe a win considering the 1st half.

 

[roseboy64]

Got stuck in, fair enough, but he didn't change the game at all.

Yes he did. United created more chances when he came on.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Yes he did. United created more chances when he came on.

When? We created chances as soon as the 2nd half started, and he wasn't on then.

 

[roseboy64]

Weren't some people involved with Man Utd saying the other week that Rossi was "the most gifted natural striker they had seen in years"?

He's not ready yet to be given that accolade but he should have stayed on. Saha was just rubbish.

 

[roseboy64]

When? We created chances as soon as the 2nd half started, and he wasn't on then.

The general standard of the attacks improved. Therefore, more chances were created.

 

[Tom Halsey]

The general standard of the attacks improved. Therefore, more chances were created.

No, the general standard of the attacks improved at the start of the second half (presumably Ferguson gave them an absolute roasting) - it had nothing to do with Rooney at all. When was Rooney instrumental in a very good chance?

 

[superkingdave]

When? We created chances as soon as the 2nd half started, and he wasn't on then.

more in the first 5 minutes after they came on than in pretty much the whole of the first hour

65 mins: The ball falls to Saha but his volley is blocked.

65 mins: Deeney makes another save from Rooney at the expense of a corner.

64 mins: Wonderful save from Deeney as Rooney bears down on him at point-blank range. United are well on top now, but can't yet find a way through.

63 mins: Great ball from Ronaldo on the right finds Saha. His first touch is good but as it bobbles on the surface his second touch is woeful and the chance is gone.

62 mins: Richardson's ball for Saha is well intercepted by Austin, who has been hugely impressive at the back for Burton.

62 mins: Ronaldo shows his range of tricks and his cross is headed home by Saha, but he's miles offside and the goal won't stand.

61 mins: Silvestre's ball across the edge of the box is cleared by Tinson.

60 mins: Rooney's first touch is a spectacular bicycle kick that flies over the bar. Things could get decidedly tricky now for Burton.

 

[superkingdave]

No, the general standard of the attacks improved at the start of the second half (presumably Ferguson gave them an absolute roasting) - it had nothing to do with Rooney at all. When was Rooney instrumental in a very good chance?

they had just 2 shots (both off target) in the second half before Rooney and Ronaldo came on?

 

[Tom Halsey]

Nah, was more than that. And when Rooney came on we didn't create much. The fact is it was a combination of Burton playing well, and us playing badly. Burton, on their performance today, thoroughly deserved a draw.

 

[superkingdave]

Nah, was more than that. And when Rooney came on we didn't create much. The fact is it was a combination of Burton playing well, and us playing badly. Burton, on their performance today, thoroughly deserved a draw.

yeah sorry i was wrong - they only had one shot (off target) in the first 15 minutes until Rooney came on - then they had 3 in the first 5 (2 on target) after he came on!

 

[Tom Halsey]

1) 65 mins: The ball falls to Saha but his volley is blocked.

2) 65 mins: Deeney makes another save from Rooney at the expense of a corner.

3) 64 mins: Wonderful save from Deeney as Rooney bears down on him at point-blank range. United are well on top now, but can't yet find a way through.

4) 63 mins: Great ball from Ronaldo on the right finds Saha. His first touch is good but as it bobbles on the surface his second touch is woeful and the chance is gone.

5) 62 mins: Richardson's ball for Saha is well intercepted by Austin, who has been hugely impressive at the back for Burton.

6) 62 mins: Ronaldo shows his range of tricks and his cross is headed home by Saha, but he's miles offside and the goal won't stand.

7) 61 mins: Silvestre's ball across the edge of the box is cleared by Tinson.

8) 60 mins: Rooney's first touch is a spectacular bicycle kick that flies over the bar. Things could get decidedly tricky now for Burton.

1) Don't remember it, so can't have been much of a chance.

2) Wasn't much a chance, half chance at best, keeper should probably have held it

3) This wasn't a great chance. The keeper bore down on him, and he couldn't really have put it anywhere else.

4) Hardly much of a chance

5) How is this a chance?

6) Classic Ronaldo doing too much of his trickery, if he'd have got it away earlier, this might have come to something.

7) How is this a chance?

8) Hardly much of a chance, was never going to go in.

 

[superkingdave]

65 Shot by Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) right-footed from left channel (20 yards), save (caught) by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion). Inswinging corner from left by-line taken right-footed by Ritchie Jones (Man Utd) to centre, resulting in open play.
64 Goal kick taken long by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion).
64 Shot by Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) right-footed from centre of penalty area (12 yards), save (caught) by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion).
64 Goal kick taken long by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion).
63 Foul by Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) on Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion). Direct free kick taken right-footed by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion) from left wing, resulting in open play.
63 Defending throw-in by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion).
62 Cross by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion), clearance by Phillip Bardsley (Man Utd).
62 Louis Saha (Man Utd) caught offside. Direct free kick taken left-footed by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion) from own half, resulting in open play.
61 Cross by Mikael Silvestre (Man Utd), resulting in open play.
60 Defending throw-in by Andrew Corbett (Burton Albion).Defending throw-in by Phillip Bardsley (Man Utd).
59 Outswinging corner from right by-line taken right-footed by Ritchie Jones (Man Utd) to centre, shot by Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) overhead kick right-footed from centre of penalty area (18 yards), missed left. Goal kick taken long by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion).
58 Man Utd substitution: Guiseppe Rossi replaced by Wayne Rooney (tactical). Man Utd substitution: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer replaced by Cristiano Ronaldo (tactical).
58 Attacking throw-in by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion).
56 Attacking throw-in by Phillip Bardsley (Man Utd).
55 Attacking throw-in by Mikael Silvestre (Man Utd).
55 Handball by Shaun Harrad (Burton Albion). Direct free kick taken right-footed by Tim Howard (Man Utd) from own half, resulting in open play.
54 Goal kick taken long by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion).
54 Defending throw-in by Andrew Corbett (Burton Albion).
53 Shot by Kieran Richardson (Man Utd) right-footed from right channel (12 yards), missed left. Goal kick taken long by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion).
52 Defending throw-in by Phillip Bardsley (Man Utd).
52 Attacking throw-in by Andrew Corbett (Burton Albion).
52 Defending throw-in by Phillip Bardsley (Man Utd).
52 Defending throw-in by Phillip Bardsley (Man Utd).
51 Foul by Louis Saha (Man Utd) on Andrew Corbett (Burton Albion). Direct free kick taken right-footed by Andrew Corbett (Burton Albion) from own half, resulting in open play.
51 Attacking throw-in by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion).
50 Louis Saha (Man Utd) caught offside. Direct free kick taken left-footed by Saul Deeney (Burton Albion) from own half, resulting in open play.
49 Attacking throw-in by Gerard Pique (Man Utd).
49 Foul by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion) on Kieran Richardson (Man Utd). Direct free kick taken left-footed by Mikael Silvestre (Man Utd) from left channel, passed.
48 Foul by Jake Sedgemore (Burton Albion) on Guiseppe Rossi (Man Utd). Direct free kick taken left-footed by Kieran Richardson (Man Utd) from left channel, resulting in open play.
47 Attacking throw-in by Mikael Silvestre (Man Utd).
47 Cross by Keith Gilroy (Burton Albion), save (caught) by Tim Howard (Man Utd).
46 Defending throw-in by Mikael Silvestre (Man Utd).
46 Attacking throw-in by Mikael Silvestre (Man Utd).
45 The second half kicks off.

Thats the first 20 mins of the second half

 

[superkingdave]

1) Don't remember it, so can't have been much of a chance.

2) Wasn't much a chance, half chance at best, keeper should probably have held it

3) This wasn't a great chance. The keeper bore down on him, and he couldn't really have put it anywhere else.

4) Hardly much of a chance

5) How is this a chance?

6) Classic Ronaldo doing too much of his trickery, if he'd have got it away earlier, this might have come to something.

7) How is this a chance?

8) Hardly much of a chance, was never going to go in.

i wasn't quoting chances, i was just showing the first 5 minutes after he came on - there was 3 chance in the first 5 minutes

 

[aussie]

1) Don't remember it, so can't have been much of a chance.

2) Wasn't much a chance, half chance at best, keeper should probably have held it

3) This wasn't a great chance. The keeper bore down on him, and he couldn't really have put it anywhere else.

4) Hardly much of a chance

5) How is this a chance?

6) Classic Ronaldo doing too much of his trickery, if he'd have got it away earlier, this might have come to something.

7) How is this a chance?

8) Hardly much of a chance, was never going to go in.

does it even matter Man U played like fools...

 

[superkingdave]

by the way Tom, United had 3 shots on target the whole game - two of them were by Rooney in the first 5 minutes after he came on.

 

[superkingdave]

from one match report

Ferguson opted not to make any changes at the interval but after another 13 disappointing minutes which brought just a single decent opportunity, which Kieran Richardson missed after he had been sent through by Mikael Silvestre, the United boss called for the calvary.

another

The Midlands team came closest to a goal in the first half when Jon Shaw had a header cleared off the line and United did not really look dangerous until the introduction of Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo for the last 30 minutes.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Weren't some people involved with Man Utd saying the other week that Rossi was "the most gifted natural striker they had seen in years"?

Rossi is an outstanding prospect, but he's still distinctly rough around the edges. Give it two years and you'll see a fantastic striker - who won't fit into the United side, because he plays the same role as Rooney.

 

[Tom Halsey]

by the way Tom, United had 3 shots on target the whole game - two of them were by Rooney in the first 5 minutes after he came on.

Shots on target does not equal threatening. I thought our best chnace of scoring was when Ronaldo did one trick too many (as usual) and then gave it to Saha, who was then offside - it won't even go down as a shot in the book, but it was a very good chance.