*Official* England in South Africa Thread

[Scaly piscine]

14 off 29 from Vaughan during the 15 over restrictions. SA must be quaking in their boots.

 

[twctopcat]

There's getting in and there's being a pillock, now which one is Vaughan at present???

 

[Scaly piscine]

Geraint gets a start again and gets out again.

 

[tooextracool]

I dont think it was a consensus but there were some (including yourself) who fely Gough should go and others who felt that his entire career should not be foresaken for two bad games.

except it was more than 2 bad games, like it or not gough was mediocre for most of last year. no one expected him to show any improvement(richard was arguing the fact that he wasnt mediocre anyways) at his age, and really has improved in terms of fitness it doesnt change the fact that he didnt bowl phenomenally well last year.

 

[tooextracool]

I never claimed he was still an excellent ODI bowler, but the sudden attack on him after England lost the Champions Trophy final was unjust and extremely silly. Firstly, it seems he's the only bowler in the England side that can bowl at the death..

yes because the other 2 options are hoggard and ali, clearly in the summer, with harmison and flintoff bowling as well as they can, it was a different story.

 

[Scaly piscine]

I reckon another 5-6 overs of Vaughan pottering about and the required run-rate will be up to 8 as predicted earlier.

 

[Jono]

yes because the other 2 options are hoggard and ali, clearly in the summer, with harmison and flintoff bowling as well as they can, it was a different story.

No, its still not. That's still 3 bowlers.

 

[twctopcat]

I reckon another 5-6 overs of Vaughan pottering about and the required run-rate will be up to 8 as predicted earlier.

Let's just hope the footie is a bit more enterprising!!!

 

[tooextracool]

It hurt me to say that too.

actually if you use richards estimation, gough has gone for over 4.5 in all of his last 4 games. hence hes bowled fairly poorly.

 

[tooextracool]

No, its still not. That's still 3 bowlers.

point being? in the summer harmison and flintoff time and again came up with fabulous performances, and made gough's performances look mediorce. of course now that we have hoggard(what the hell is he doing in the side ITFP) and ali who are bowling poorly, it makes him look good. no disrespect, hes bowled really well, but he wasnt anywhere near the standard of harmison and flintoff. and IMO id pick jones in the side ahead of hoggard or ali ATM.

 

[twctopcat]

Good test match this isn't it? - Last sarcastic comment.

 

[superkingdave]

Good test match this isn't it? - Last sarcastic comment.

It wouldn't be a problem if it were a test match as Vaughan usually tries to smash every ball through the covers in them!

 

[twctopcat]

Was just amusing myself as i looked at the scorecard and the SR's were 40 odd and 50odd!

 

[Scaly piscine]

Just unbelievable, they milk away taking very little risks and pushing the run-rate well over 8 an over, then they go for a run like that. Utter stupidity.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Just the 10 an over needed off the last 16 overs...

 

[SpaceMonkey]

We're only 4 behind what SA were at the same overs gone. So England have done this well i think. Obviously Kemp absolutly went mad and we bowled crap for the next 12 or so overs, which you cant see SA doing.

 

[kof98]

A few good shots from Pietersen, maybe he should have batted at 3.

 

[Scaly piscine]

I think it'll come down to how well England cope against Nel who will probably be the hardest to get away, another beamer gets away with not being called a no-ball.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

SA scored 111 off the last 10 overs. England just need 98 off the last 10 overs. Same amount of wickets lost at this time too. So we've done well so far. Just hope SA dont bowl that well in the last 10.

 

[superkingdave]

at least it wasn't KP, if he's out its curtains