*Official* England in South Africa Thread

[SpeedKing]

yes Gilo

 

[Pratters]

What have you got to say about that, Pratyush?

I wont even start on Aleem Dar. Not mny umpires give so many on the front foot out to spinners and they have a reason.

 

[Hoggy31]

de Villiers out for 92, sweeping Giles, LBW

*EDIT* woops i was a bit late

 

[Swervy]

I wont even start on Aleem Dar. Not mny umpires give so many on the front foot out to spinners and they have a reason.

ok..whats that reason??

 

[twctopcat]

Big test of character for AB here as he gets near his maiden ton. I think he will do it, seems like has got a good mental game.

All england fans can thank me. Wrote this kiss of death post on purpose. Worked like a dream.

 

[Pratters]

ok..whats that reason??

Its not eay to be sure with spinners when batmen on the front foot. More often than not such doubtfl decisions are given not out.

If you are sure, it another matter.

 

[Pratters]

All england fans can thank me. Wrote this kiss of death post on purpose. Worked like a dream.

And the South African fans should do what with you!?

 

[Mr Casson]

Its not eay to be sure with spinners when batmen on the front foot. More often than not such doubtfl decisions are given not out.

If you are sure, it another matter.

I am sure, HawkEye was sure, the commentators seemed pretty sure, the umpire was certainly sure.

If you were an umpire, you'd get a sore arse from fence-sitting!

 

[twctopcat]

And the South African fans should do what with you!?

That my friend, i cannot help you with.

 

[Scaly piscine]

*chalks up another misfield on Harmison's bowling*

 

[Swervy]

Its not eay to be sure with spinners when batmen on the front foot. More often than not such doubtfl decisions are given not out.

If you are sure, it another matter.

well given the fact that the umpire gave it out, then one can only assume the umpire was sure it was going to hit....different umpires have different styles,it has always been like that and always will be..batsmen should be bearing that in mind when playing at this level

 

[Pratters]

I am sure, HawkEye was sure, the commentators seemed pretty sure, the umpire was certainly sure.

If you were an umpire, you'd get a sore arse from fence-sitting!

How much would the ball would have deviated spinning and considering the distance it had to travel, I am not sure. A.B.Devilliers also seemed shocked and he had every right to be.

 

[Pratters]

well given the fact that the umpire gave it out, then one can only assume the umpire was sure it was going to hit....different umpires have different styles,it has always been like that and always will be..batsmen should be bearing that in mind when playing at this level

Yes which is why bowlers often chose the end they want to bowl keeping the umpires in mind too.

 

[Swervy]

How much would the ball would have deviated spinning and considering the distance it had to travel, I am not sure. A.B.Devilliers also seemed shocked and he had every right to be.

course he was shocked..he just missed out on his first test hundred

 

[Swervy]

Yes which is why bowlers often chose the end they want to bowl keeping the umpires in mind too.

thats right..its part of the game.

I just dont agree that the habitual excuse of having the front foot forward should always be a way of justifying why someone shouldnt be happy with an LBW decision

 

[Scaly piscine]

How much would the ball would have deviated spinning and considering the distance it had to travel, I am not sure. A.B.Devilliers also seemed shocked and he had every right to be.

Everyone with a brain knows Giles barely turns the ball at the best of times, let alone on what is effectively the first day, then you've got the ball pitching and hitting into the pads so you can see for yourself whether it's turned or not - ball was hitting the stumps comfortably and it hit his pads in front of the stumps, pitching on the stumps or off-side. That's lbw end of story.

 

[Pratters]

thats right..its part of the game.

I just dont agree that the habitual excuse of having the front foot forward should always be a way of justifying why someone shouldnt be happy with an LBW decision

I agree that if being on the front foot is not an excuse of not giving lbw. But when some one is on the front foot, you have to be very bold and definite to give a decision out.

 

[Pratters]

Everyone with a brain

So A.B.Devilliers didnt have a brain and neither did the commentators who said umpires usually dont such decisions out and never talked about it being out or not later either?

 

[Swervy]

I agree that if being on the front foot is not an excuse of not giving lbw. But when some one is on the front foot, you have to be very bold and definite to give a decision out.

of course..and to be a good umpire thats what you need to be. the umpire needs to weigh up the type of bowler, how the pitch is playing etc etc when making a desicion...but it does come down to his own opinion..only he gets to see what he gets to see and at the speed at which he sees it, he has to make that decision based on the facts AS HE SEES THEM.

Obviuosly Giles isnt turning the ball that much and so the fact his front foot is down the wicket doesnt really come into play

 

[twctopcat]

Whoops!!