blackcapsrule
State 12th Man
Does anyone here care if Zimbabwe loses test status. I'm not to worried as it will give a team like Kenya a chance to get test status.
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*Official* Australia in Zimbabwe Thread
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I certainly do.blackcapsrule said:
Gaijin-san
Banned
Kick Zimbabwe out and don't bring anyone in is my vote. I care if they lose Test status. I hope they do, that is.
Why bring Kenya in, especially now? Does cricket of the highest order need more whipping boys? Of course not.
Kenya should get Test status when they deserve it, not when there's a spot to be filled. We've all heard about how they should get Test status based on their performance in the 2003 WC, but you'll do them more good if you give them a 5 year plan to set up a domestic infrastructure and more time to improve.
As for the talk about 'pit them against the best and they'll get better', that's not necessarily the case. Like I said, give them status when they deserve it; when there's no point in them playing lesser teams anymore because they're too good, which right now they aren't.
So let's just kick Zimbabwe out and leave it at that.
Why bring Kenya in, especially now? Does cricket of the highest order need more whipping boys? Of course not.
Kenya should get Test status when they deserve it, not when there's a spot to be filled. We've all heard about how they should get Test status based on their performance in the 2003 WC, but you'll do them more good if you give them a 5 year plan to set up a domestic infrastructure and more time to improve.
As for the talk about 'pit them against the best and they'll get better', that's not necessarily the case. Like I said, give them status when they deserve it; when there's no point in them playing lesser teams anymore because they're too good, which right now they aren't.
So let's just kick Zimbabwe out and leave it at that.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
The Zimbabwe one day squad has been announced, and suprise suprise, no rebels.
Dion Ebrahim, Stuart Matsikenyeri, Brendan Taylor, Vusumuzi Sibanda, Mark Vermeulen, Elton Chigumbura, Tatenda Taibu (capt and wk), Alester Maregwede, Tinashe Panyangara, Tawanda Mupariwa, Mluleki Nkala, Douglas Hondo, Edward Rainsford, Waddington Mwayenga.
I know the selections are very dodgey, but the question must still be posed: Where is Prosper Utseya?
Dion Ebrahim, Stuart Matsikenyeri, Brendan Taylor, Vusumuzi Sibanda, Mark Vermeulen, Elton Chigumbura, Tatenda Taibu (capt and wk), Alester Maregwede, Tinashe Panyangara, Tawanda Mupariwa, Mluleki Nkala, Douglas Hondo, Edward Rainsford, Waddington Mwayenga.
I know the selections are very dodgey, but the question must still be posed: Where is Prosper Utseya?
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
Nope - not under the current regime. If things change, it could be given back to them at a stroke.blackcapsrule said:
Kenya have a long way to go before they are granted test status - and the expulsion or otherwise of Zimbabwe should neither hasten or delay it.
PY
International Coach
Indeed it is. It seems that the ICC are only making decisions because of the tradition of Tests being the pinnacle of the game and don't want it ruined.Scallywag said:
I feel it should be because of the selection process being racist and therefore playing the ODI is just as bad but then again, the ICC and I rarely agree.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Thats why I said suprise, suprise.marc71178 said:
Really, though, anything was possible. No-one really knows whats going on there.
Ford_GTHO351
U19 Vice-Captain
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
As one of Ricky Ponting's fiercest critics (I'm not really, I think he's a fantastic player but he has been 'drawn' in the past), let me be one of the first to say that I applaud what he is saying here and maintain that he has every right to do so.Ford_GTHO351 said:
bennyr
U19 12th Man
It's a fair opinion, and he has every right to voice it, but I disagree.luckyeddie said:
I think that allowing some of the lesser cricketing countries to play in the tournaments gives them exposure and helps them improve their standard. Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe both benefitted from this type of exposure before being given test status, and it worked to some extent (before the political situation in Zimbabwe became dire).
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'll just clarify what I'm saying - I applaud the sentiments of what he's saying, I also feel strongly that ODI's should not be devalued.
I don't advocate reducing the number of sides playing ODI's though, but I certainly feel that there has to be a re-think on the 'cycle' of everyone playing everyone else.
Maybe include the 'minnows' in tri-nations series instead of straight one-to-one series?
I don't advocate reducing the number of sides playing ODI's though, but I certainly feel that there has to be a re-think on the 'cycle' of everyone playing everyone else.
Maybe include the 'minnows' in tri-nations series instead of straight one-to-one series?
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
From Cricinfo ball-by-ball:
Is this true? He's bowling off a short run?