**Official** Australia in India Thread

[tooextracool]

Even Mark Waugh averaged 12 in Sri Lanka.

mark waugh is by no means a great player......good yes, great, thats steve.

 

[tooextracool]

well, if it was the 'so called my team' then the answer would be none, presuming of cause that that team is India in this instance there's no way any of them could average 3.40 in a series against themselves! haha

well i dont think there was a single player on either side who managed to average less than that, and that probably includes the tailenders.

 

[tooextracool]

Well, actually, yes. The match was early in the second day, there was little point in him simply blocking up an end with the tail - runs were the name of the game IMO.

and i believe that he was trying to score quickly.certainly when he hit that 6 of hauritz he was trying to accelerate.
but he isnt a natural hitter, and against an attack like that, he certainly cant be blamed for not scoring quicker.

 

[tooextracool]

To be fair in this case - he's coming off a 2 month lay-off.

Had he played all 4 Tests and not scored, then that would be a different matter.

oh of course, he cant be blamed for it given that he was coming back from injury. but it must be said that he has to make the most of his opportunities, hes got limited chances, and given his previous failures its vital for him to succeed and succeed brilliantly in the sub continent before the end of his career.

 

[Neil Pickup]

well i dont think there was a single player on either side who managed to average less than that, and that probably includes the tailenders.

Series Averages
Colin Miller 1.00
Rahul Sanghvi 1.00
Ajit Agarkar 0.00

 

[biased indian]

Ajit Agarkar 0.00

 

[tooextracool]

I wouldn't say the subcontinent. He has batted very well in Sri Lanka and Pakistan, he just has major problems against continual pressure with spin bowlers that India give him.

pakistan havent exactly had brilliant spinners in a while, and their pitches are significantly better than india and SL in terms of offering more for the pace bowlers.
ponting had 1 good series in SL, and then was relatively poor on the last tour there.

 

[biased indian]

pakistan havent exactly had brilliant spinners in a while, and their pitches are significantly better than india and SL in terms of offering more for the pace bowlers.

so india's victory there in the last series was atleast not a bad one

 

[tooextracool]

Series Averages
Colin Miller 1.00
Rahul Sanghvi 1.00
Ajit Agarkar 0.00

okay then, 3 people all of whom only got 1 game in the entire series averaged lower than him......

 

[tooextracool]

so india's victory there in the last series was atleast not a bad one

where in pakistan?
no definetly not, i never said it was a bad one did i?

 

[tooextracool]

Series Averages
Colin Miller 1.00
Rahul Sanghvi 1.00
Ajit Agarkar 0.00

a few surprises there, glenn mcgrath at 3!
and michael slater, i thought he was poor, but apparently he was a lot better than some of the other players in that series.

 

[maxpower]

and i believe that he was trying to score quickly.certainly when he hit that 6 of hauritz he was trying to accelerate.
but he isnt a natural hitter, and against an attack like that, he certainly cant be blamed for not scoring quicker.

why not blame him for not scoring faster ? some ppl say he has the best "technique" of all, that and about 10 yrs or cricket experience should be good enough for any kind of attack.

 

[tooextracool]

why not blame him for not scoring faster ? some ppl say he has the best "technique" of all, that and about 10 yrs or cricket experience should be good enough for any kind of attack.

why blame him at all when all the other batsmen in the side failed miserably?
he tried his best, its not in his game to smash bowlers out of the park, but he certainly attempted to accelerate the innings and that was evident when he smashed hauritz for a 6.
amazing that while the rest of the top order fails miserably, and dravid bats till the end, yet he still gets all the blame.

 

[maxpower]

actually i had no intention of blaming him at all, coz I don't believe one person is responsible for a team failure. But now you know how it feels when one makes those kinda comments.

 

[tooextracool]

actually i had no intention of blaming him at all, coz I don't believe one person is responsible for a team failure. But now you know how it feels when one makes those kinda comments.

dravid is not responsible for anything, he was the only one to succeed in the entire team.

 

[Mister Wright]

pakistan havent exactly had brilliant spinners in a while, and their pitches are significantly better than india and SL in terms of offering more for the pace bowlers.
ponting had 1 good series in SL, and then was relatively poor on the last tour there.

I agree with you, however I was just making the point that he hasn't failed on the sub-continent, just in India. It doesn't really matter what type of attacks Pakistan or Sri Lanka had (or has) he has still done well in those other countries, and really, really poor in India.

 

[marc71178]

Ajit Agarkar 0.00

All hail AA!!!!!

 

[Jnr.]

oh of course, he cant be blamed for it given that he was coming back from injury. but it must be said that he has to make the most of his opportunities, hes got limited chances, and given his previous failures its vital for him to succeed and succeed brilliantly in the sub continent before the end of his career.

I wonder what he would've scored if the umpire didn't give him out lbw, which was a bit iffy.

 

[Jnr.]

ponting had 1 good series in SL, and then was relatively poor on the last tour there.

He looked very comfortable against spin on the last tour, in fact it was Vaas that kept getting him (dubiously or not). Handled Muralitharan without a fuss.

 

[Mister Wright]

He looked very comfortable against spin on the last tour, in fact it was Vaas that kept getting him (dubiously or not). Handled Muralitharan without a fuss.

Spin is not his weakness. It is quality spin from both ends that he has problems against. Facing just one spinner like Murali or Singh is really no problem for him because he knows he just has to face out the over and/or put the bad one away. But when there is quality spin from both ends, he seems to panic and feels he has to dominate, unlike a player like Martyn who just plays them on the merits.