***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

[King_Ponting]

What I love about him is his massive front arm. No wonder he generates so much pace, he gets the most out of that limb.

Dunno about the bolt through the chin though...

Its this new "punk" uprising..... dissapointing imo

 

[vic_orthdox]

Its this new "punk" uprising..... dissapointing imo

I don't mind a bit of attitude. Just more of an eyebrow stud man, myself.

 

[aussie]

ok play to start at 3:30 nicholas says thats around 12:30 australian time methinks.....

 

[Pothas]

The more I think of it, the more I feel Australia should play 5 bowlers in the 4th test. Bowling wins test matches and to get 20 wickets a line up of McGrath, Gillespie(before he went out of form), Lee/Kasporwicz and Warne looks strong.

But a line up of a dicey McGrath, Lee, Warne and Tait does not.

Should Australia go with MacGill despite the curator saying it wont support the spinners or Kasporwicz as a 5th bowler? If the Aussies feel the pitch has some thing for the spinners, I would have chosen MacGill as the 5th bowler.

highly unlikely the Aussies will go with 5 bowlers though.

A good point. This series has shown that Australia have a complete lack of depth of fast bowling now days. For years they have had this awsomne 4 bowlers atack and now that is coming and in the case of gillespies seems to have come too an end Australia are suddenly crying out for an allrounder. mr symonds in soon i am sure

 

[Pothas]

England must now do what they didnt do in the last two tests and make a massive total

 

[Isolator]

*evil material removed*

In conclusion, Angus Fraser is a load of crap.

 

[vic_orthdox]

England must now do what they didnt do in the first test and make a massive total

I'm still trying to figure out the connection between this Test and the First Test...

 

[Pedro Delgado]

Dunno what all the fuss is about, IIRC Aravinda stood out of his crease against (Cork?) the swinging ball a few years back, and Stewart was trying to run him out every time. Don't remember anyone chewing about it at the time, if you bat out of your crease you're there to be run out for me.

 

[greg]

Now I Know What Happened In the Last Over of the Third Test
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(aka "Angus Fraser's Imaginary Immoral Run-Out Situation")

I haven't been reading this thread much, so I dunno if someone's already done this, but they were showing the highlights of the last day's play here, and this is what really happened in that last over (it was the first ball):

Harmison bowls one down the legside, McGarth looks for bye, Jones gathers, rolls, throws (AT STUMPS), misses, ball gathered by Hoggard, but McGarth gets back in his crease.

NOTE:
1) There was no run-out opportunity for Hoggard, because McGarth got back in his crease.
2) Jones was trying to hit the stumps, and wasn't merely tossing the ball back to the bowler, as some maniacs here seem to think.

In conclusion, Angus Fraser is a load of crap.

On the second ball Harmison bowled a full ball which narrowly missed the offstump. McGrath stood where he was staring forward wondering why he missed it. Jones caught the ball held it for a couple of seconds (does that constitute the ball being dead?) - and then lobbed it back to Hoggard. (the last bit was not captured by the TV cameras).

 

[Mister Wright]

cricinfo:

UPDATE [1325 GMT] Rain has stopped play for the second time in the
day. We will be back with all the live action as and when it
happens.

 

[luckyeddie]

Now I Know What Happened In the Last Over of the Third Test...

<boring bit snipped>

In conclusion, Angus Fraser is a load of crap.

You know nothing. The 'standing outside the crease' incident was the second ball.

I'll give you the Fraser bit though.

 

[aussie]

oh dear would u believe it rain again , at least tomoro forecast is good

 

[Isolator]

You know nothing. The 'standing outside the crease' incident was the second ball.

I'll give you the Fraser bit though.

Well, I got something right, at least.

Don't remember anyone chewing about it at the time, if you bat out of your crease you're there to be run out for me.

Agreed.

 

[King_Ponting]

Dunno what all the fuss is about, IIRC Aravinda stood out of his crease against (Cork?) the swinging ball a few years back, and Stewart was trying to run him out every time. Don't remember anyone chewing about it at the time, if you bat out of your crease you're there to be run out for me.

isnt it classed as stumped?

 

[vic_orthdox]

isnt it classed as stumped?

Yup, made no attempt to run, therefore it is stumped.

If Bell had've hit the stumps at short-leg last Test, he would have had Martyn out stumped, I think.

 

[Isolator]

Yeah, stumped. He's right, anyway.

One question I thought of:

If a batsman's batting with a runner, and he's bowled off a no-ball, but the runner is standing outside his crease, is it a run-out?

 

[Pedro Delgado]

oh dear would u believe it rain again , at least tomoro forecast is good

Tomorrow a couple of light showers, but good. Sat/Sun clear all the way.

Frustrating though this for Eng, going well at the moment.

 

[King_Ponting]

Yeah, stumped. He's right, anyway.

One question I thought of:

If a batsman's batting with a runner, and he's bowled off a no-ball, but the runner is standing outside his crease, is it a run-out?

no, because its just the same as someone standing outside of their crease and getting bowled. unless another feilder comes in contact with the ball before it hits the stumps...

 

[aussie]

Yeah, stumped. He's right, anyway.

One question I thought of:

If a batsman's batting with a runner, and he's bowled off a no-ball, but the runner is standing outside his crease, is it a run-out?

no i dont think so because for him to be runout he the batsman who is on strike would have to be looking for a run so he'll just be out bowled....

 

[King_Ponting]

no i dont think so because for him to be runout he the batsman who is on strike would have to be looking for a run so he'll just be out bowled....

he cant tho cause its a no-ball... and u cant have the runner getting out bowled as the runner does not take strike