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***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

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Slow Love™ said:
In general I agree - a wicket with so little for the bowlers is always a poor test wicket, in the sense that I don't think it encourages exciting cricket (as opposed to substandard wickets that are health-hazards or reduce matches to lotteries). Although I still don't believe that this intrinsically favors England as some have suggested (OK, it may have only been Nuffy).

I haven't given up on us winning this one yet, K_P - it's still early days.
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It always looks like there's little in it for the bowlers when Lee and Kasper bowl - they're straight up and down apart from Kasper's off-cutters.
 
atichon

atichon

School Boy/Girl Captain
McGrath's injury is not lucky for England.

Like SL rely on Murali and Vaas, Australia rely too heavily on McGrath and Warne and they're not youngsters anymore, bound to be injured.

The n°1 team in the world should be able to overcome those injuries.

What will they do when Mc Grath and Warne retire ?

I can see Australia declining the same way WI declined in the 90'S
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
King_Ponting said:
i hate it how greg mathews says "plus tax". Its really stating to p*ss me off. Its just 500 runs not 500 plus tax, you idiot!!!
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It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't think the psychological effect of chasing 500 runs doesn't make a difference? That's the tax, mate, and it's a regressive (the most unfair) at that - the less you make, the more you get taxed.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
And I think he's also referring to the fact that chances are that you won't make 500, so you'll have extra to chase next innings.
 
King_Ponting

King_Ponting

International Regular
vic_orthdox said:
It actually makes a lot of sense. You don't think the psychological effect of chasing 500 runs doesn't make a difference? That's the tax, mate, and it's a regressive (the most unfair) at that - the less you make, the more you get taxed.
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I understand the economic background in his statement, however his over iuse of the term, every time he gets questioned about runs is extremely annoying
 
andyc

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just to go back to Tait, I've heard a lot about his wicket taking balls, but I can't say I saw one of them.

Also, he's got a very unusual run-up, he seems to lumber very slowly up to the pitch yet releases balls that are 90+mph, but they don't look it, either.

Anyway, as I was just watching the highlights of the Edgbaston test on SBS, I realised big difference in these teams- the field placements. The English batsmen were hitting fours (okay, it was a highlights tape, but still) everywhere, but when the Aussies bat, their very powerfully hit drives and the such go straight to a fielder on the boundary.
 
King_Ponting

King_Ponting

International Regular
andyc said:
Just to go back to Tait, I've heard a lot about his wicket taking balls, but I can't say I saw one of them.

Also, he's got a very unusual run-up, he seems to lumber very slowly up to the pitch yet releases balls that are 90+mph, but they don't look it, either.

Anyway, as I was just watching the highlights of the Edgbaston test on SBS, I realised big difference in these teams- the field placements. The English batsmen were hitting fours (okay, it was a highlights tape, but still) everywhere, but when the Aussies bat, their very powerfully hit drives and the such go straight to a fielder on the boundary.
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hence his suprise factor. and if you saw tait bowl live..... hes extremely quick
 
aussie

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
But without control, what use is pace?
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give him time, but if what Mr.Hodge said about Mitchell Johnson's pace an attack in the future of Lee/Tait/Johnson could be interesting hmmmmmmmmm 8-)
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Scaly piscine said:
It always looks like there's little in it for the bowlers when Lee and Kasper bowl - they're straight up and down apart from Kasper's off-cutters.
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I'll be interested to see, when someone gets a nick, how well it will carry. The slips would want to be darn close on that deck.
 
Demolition Man

Demolition Man

State Vice-Captain
Nuffy said:
I think this is a wake up call for Australian groundsmen.

Last season they prepared pitches that suited India down to the ground, now we have the Eng groundsmen preparing pitches to suit the Eng team.

:Lets hope we see the same strategy this Australian summer, its a legit tactic no issue with that, but lets hope everyone does it.
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not if the games finish in 2 days, cricket australia make no money !!!
 
FaaipDeOiad

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
vic_orthdox said:
Tait bowled OK, am already frustrated with the over-analysis of his action. Instantly, Tony Greig started comparing him with McGrath. To quote nibbs - "ffs" - he's never going to be bowling like McGrath. I love the way SA have handled him - said "this is the way he bowls, like it or lump it".

In my opinion, this is probably the worst pitch for cricket so far this series. Horribly slow. I don't have a problem with batsmen-friendly pitches, a la Old Trafford and Edgbaston (sp), which had pace and bounce and something there for the bowlers. But this is just a slow plodder, the type that you expect to see in One Day cricket to "excite the fans" so that players can just rock onto the front foot. Not only has the curator tried to "nullify Warne", he's trying to nullify anyone who doesn't bat at 7 or above. Even if the ball starts reverse swinging and wickets are taken, it doesn't change the fact that it's not a good Test match wicket.
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Agreed on both points.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
aussie said:
this isn't EA cricket 2005 :p
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I wouldn't mind Mitchell Johnson playing more than two games in a row first 8-)

I think that some of these players are a sign of the times in terms of fast bowling teaching. All refined actions aimed to get the most pace, and in doing so compromise the amount of movement that the bowler gets.
 
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