***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

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Been watching highlights of 2001 series on Foxtel during delay (hey, wife's 8 months pregnant, what else can a guy do?)

Interesting changes in field placings by English between then and now.

Gilchrist and Martyn batting looks exactly the same and bowlers tried same tactics for both regularly.

However, 3rd man was rarely used in 2001.

Both flashed away outside off-stump but got 4 whenever they beat the field.

They obviously decided risk was worth it.

In this series, at least one thrid man is always used and many times a deep point.

As a result, more often than not, a single results if they get it through.

Risk is not worth the result.

England has really succeded with drying up 4 opportunities for most Aus batsmen this series.

 

[Jamee999]

like for like i suppose

MP Vaughan 166

 

[marc71178]

While the umps have made some mistakes, I think the commentators have been a bit harsh. I thought Bucknor was within his rights to give Hayden not out. Botham said it was plumb - what rubbish! As for Giles' dismissal of Hayden, that looked out with naked eye. Granted, replays showed it was 1 inch outside offstump, but Bowden - viewing it live - was entitled to give it.

Precisely - On camera the Hayden 2nd ball looked to be going down and the one that he was given out off looked plumb.

 

[marc71178]

Yes thats right Marc...play it up. The whole world is against you

Look at the reactions of certain Australian's on here - refuseing to give any English player credit for anything.

 

[Shane Warne]

As for Giles' dismissal of Hayden, that looked out with naked eye. Granted, replays showed it was 1 inch outside offstump, but Bowden - viewing it live - was entitled to give it.

Errr no because of the fact it was 1 inch outside offstump, therefore benefit of the doubt means he was entitled to give it not out.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Why is it that Giles only goes around the wicket when a tail ender is batting? Very odd.

He certainly doesn't look that dangerous now that he isn't bowling into the footmarks anyway. Fingers crossed that he doesn't give Gillespie too many problems keeping him out until he goes back over. The real problem will come with Jones and reverse swing at the other end.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Why is it that Giles only goes around the wicket when a tail ender is batting? Very odd.

He certainly doesn't look that dangerous now that he isn't bowling into the footmarks anyway. Fingers crossed that he doesn't give Gillespie too many problems keeping him out until he goes back over. The real problem will come with Jones and reverse swing at the other end.

Giles has only gone around the wicket to Gillespie. It seems a specific plan to me.

 

[Shane Warne]

Why is it that Giles only goes around the wicket when a tail ender is batting? Very odd.

Because if he did it to a frontline batsman he would get smashed out of the ground.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Interesting bouncer....

 

[aussie]

Well lads i'm off to OT for day 3, i must say good work Peter Maron & the ground staff i reckon we have great drainage system at OT . But here is what Australia need to do to get back into this test & win:

1. The Tail lead by Warne has to get Australia to at least 300 thus England lead will be 144 or less.

2. Thus they have to bowl England out for between 125 to 150 thus looking at chasing around 300, all the bowlers with Warne being the trump card have to be at their best, including the out of sorts Dizzy a good bowling performance from him could secure is place at Nottingham

3. Well i'm off now COME ON AUSTRALIA.....

 

[Shane Warne]

Stuart Macgill just hit Pietersens derriere with a bat.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Why is it that Giles only goes around the wicket when a tail ender is batting? Very odd.

I think it's confidence really, Gillespie is unlikely to hammer him so he's willing to try different things and get out of his comfort zone.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Grrr Warne keeps hitting it one bounce to the fielders.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

50 for Warnie.

 

[Monty]

anyone for a warnie ton

 

[Shane Warne]

Grrr Warne keeps hitting it one bounce to the fielders.

Like Bell was when he batted.

Unlike Warne though, he was defeated by the ball in which he did it.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Excellent 50 for Warne, probably the most mature innings I've ever seen from him.

Interesting fact, that his first class record since the beginnings of the Australian domestic season, which now includes 11 tests as well as games for Victoria and Hampshire, is 851 runs @ 30.39 with 2 centuries and five 50s, with three of the 50s coming in test cricket. Can't argue with that.

 

[Shane Warne]

Also interesting to hear that when he was got out on 99 against NZ it was actually off a missed no ball.

DIdn't know that until Benaud just said it.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

How many overs till Warnie holes out or has his leg stump being cleaned up by trying to leg glance three foot outside off like he tries to do as out late.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Giles has only gone around the wicket to Gillespie. It seems a specific plan to me.

Bizarre plan if you ask me. Happy to eat my words on this if I'm wrong, but I'd be stunned if Gillespie got out to Giles bowling around the wicket on this pitch. He just isn't turning it enough. Out of the footmarks though, anybody can get out because the turn is so unpredictable.