***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

[King_Ponting]

no i do not....what on earth makes you think that?

You picking up the subtle "gay" antics that supposedly occured between certain players in world cricket?

 

[Hanuma]

Yes yes he has. It took him 1 game to get going....... On the other hand. bell dropped for the next test?

not necissarily....i think he is still a sublimely talented batsman...seriously. perhaps collingwood could be considered, but bell is so talented and he was promising in his second innings.

 

[Hanuma]

You picking up the subtle "gay" antics that supposedly occured between certain players in world cricket?

thats not very good logic.

 

[King_Ponting]

thats not very good logic.

How so?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Yes yes he has. It took him 1 game to get going....... On the other hand. bell dropped for the next test?

Him or Vaughan!

Seriously tho, we can't carry two passengers in our batting (you might even extend that to three, if you include G Jones too) & Collingwood seems in prime nick with the blade, so there's a case to be made.

 

[Hanuma]

your logic goes along the lines of;

i am gay because i have a knack of telling who is a bit gay....

not really smart or very well thought out.

 

[luckyeddie]

notice that his front foot was miles away from the pitch of the ball, and that he moved his front foot towards the left instead of getting it far forward. it was a poor shot to a very good ball IMO. he looks to be a very shaky player against spin, which is not good for our winter tours of the sub continent.

Not interested in the sub-continent at the moment.

I certainly agree that Strauss didn't exactly 'narrow the angle' - needs to work on a fair number of things.

 

[Hanuma]

Him or Vaughan!

Seriously tho, we can't carry two passengers in our batting (you might even extend that to three, if you include G Jones too) & Collingwood seems in prime nick with the blade, so there's a case to be made.

true....i will leave that decision to those who know the both of them best.

lets be honest, bell does have the talent to be one of our best batsmen....he seems to have put far too much pressure on himself...very tense at the crease.

 

[Hanuma]

Not interested in the sub-continent at the moment.

I certainly agree that Strauss didn't exactly 'narrow the angle' - needs to work on a fair number of things.

still a top guy/sportsman and an excellent batsman that will continue to get stronger during this series.

 

[King_Ponting]

your logic goes along the lines of;

i am gay because i have a knack of telling who is a bit gay....

not really smart or very well thought out.

But if u think about it. Homosexuals can pick other gay guys from the straight ones...... a skill that a majority of straight guys can not.........

I wasnt exactly saying your gay, just that stuff like that happens all the time and its not gay mate. Like just because a team showers together.... does that make all of the members involved in that activity gay? I think not

 

[tooextracool]

Players have always got out to bad shots, its not a new phenomenon...ocassionally we see truely great pieces of cricket..why cant people just enjoy them, instead of ripping them to shreds.

Some people completely miss the point about this game

indeed, it really is annoying to see things like, england lost because a,b,c and d played poor shots to get out.
theres never been an inning where players didnt play poor shots and get out to them, and too many people on here seem to be the first to criticise players as soon as they get out.

 

[luckyeddie]

Yes yes he has. It took him 1 game to get going....... On the other hand. bell dropped for the next test?

Nope. Looked fine today until he got a rip-snorter.

If England win, there's not a cat in hell's chance there will be any changes (fitness allowing, of course).

 

[Hanuma]

I wasnt exactly saying your gay, just that stuff like that happens all the time and its not gay mate. Like just because a team showers together.... does that make all of the members involved in that activity gay? I think not

and i didnt argue that.

i couldnt care less whether anybody calls me gay, certainly not an offensive thing....however i am not and i felt i may aswell say.

 

[luckyeddie]

and i didnt argue that.

i couldnt care less whether anybody calls me gay, certainly not an offensive thing....however i am not and i felt i may aswell say.

Take this discussion off-list - or at least into off-topic.

(In your case, if not off-Topic, off fun-size Mars Bar, sweetie)

 

[King_Ponting]

Nope. Looked fine today until he got a rip-snorter.

If England win, there's not a cat in hell's chance there will be any changes (fitness allowing, of course).

Vaughans form has to be a serious worry tho...... If he fails to reach a 50 in the first 4 tests does anyone reckon he's a possibilty of being dropped?

 

[tooextracool]

does Flintoff have a weakness vs the short ball????

its really more shot selection than anything else. you have to pick the right ball to pull, not just every short ball.

 

[luckyeddie]

Vaughans form has to be a serious worry tho...... If he fails to reach a 50 in the first 4 tests does anyone reckon he's a possibilty of being dropped?

Again, it depends on results. His captaincy has been exemplary, but no-one wants us to have to rely on another Brearley-like skipper who only gets in the side because of his leadership.

 

[tooextracool]

Neither as far as I can see. ball doesn't deviate until it took the edge.

im pretty sure the ball moved off the seam there, enough to take the edge.

 

[Swervy]

its really more shot selection than anything else. you have to pick the right ball to pull, not just every short ball.

yeah..I agree with that

Pretty much like Vaughan, who in my books is one of the best pullers in the game,and yet gets out to a poorly chosen pull very frequently

 

[luckyeddie]

yeah..I agree with that

Pretty much like Vaughan, who in my books is one of the best pullers in the game,and yet gets out to a poorly chosen pull very frequently

At the moment, he gets out because he plays from the direction of first slip.