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*Official* Australia in decline thread
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tooextracool
International Coach
what are you talking about??FRAZ said:
my point is that SA arent one of the worst ODI teams at the moment, which consequently refutes your argument that SA have been performing "well" on tours.
^ . The same players the same approach . world's best like Kallis , Pollock and Smithy there . I think they are down by luck and poor coaching . At the start of my career in Cricketweb.net I said that slump time is coming up along with Smith . I guess players are not believing in themselves , in their team and captain and in their abilities . A coach or aleader is needed to be changed
tooextracool
International Coach
a bit of both if you ask me....as i said earlier, the abilities of many of their players are exaggerated, even pollock isnt half as good the bowler he used to be.FRAZ said:
Had to dig this one up ....
Indians are no doubt world no . 2 in tests ... And for one dayers the second spot has immense compitition and I guess not one single team can be sure shot No. 2 in one dayers ................
Indians once again lacked quality Pacers in their attack . Well some body gotta stop Aussies . They have amazing fighting spirit for sure . Take an example of the 2nd innings batting in the latest test .... Amazing .....
South Africans suck now Big Big time ..Pakistan cannot find batsmen .. And for the december series against aussies I put Aussies absolute winners by miles and actually by clean sweap ................
Stay Kool
Indians are no doubt world no . 2 in tests ... And for one dayers the second spot has immense compitition and I guess not one single team can be sure shot No. 2 in one dayers ................
Indians once again lacked quality Pacers in their attack . Well some body gotta stop Aussies . They have amazing fighting spirit for sure . Take an example of the 2nd innings batting in the latest test .... Amazing .....
South Africans suck now Big Big time ..Pakistan cannot find batsmen .. And for the december series against aussies I put Aussies absolute winners by miles and actually by clean sweap ................
Stay Kool
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I am not sure if others are catching up but the Aussies are slowing down which is the same thing I suppose.
No one (least of all Aussie fans) wants to admit but the Aussie attack is going...going...This is not the attack of even two years ago. McGrath will not be able to make experience and field-smarts carry him on and replace the clear loss of sharpness for long.
Very soon batsmen will start picking up more and more confidence and attack him. It will show up the decline in this great bowler.
Warne is bowling more lose deliveries (both short pitch and full pitch) than before. Whatever we may say, these two have been the pillars of the attack and the others though good are no way able to fill these boots.
The decline is coming and it is going to speed up. Most great sides are built around a great bowling attack and when that goes they invariably decline. This Aussie side is going the same way.
No one (least of all Aussie fans) wants to admit but the Aussie attack is going...going...This is not the attack of even two years ago. McGrath will not be able to make experience and field-smarts carry him on and replace the clear loss of sharpness for long.
Very soon batsmen will start picking up more and more confidence and attack him. It will show up the decline in this great bowler.
Warne is bowling more lose deliveries (both short pitch and full pitch) than before. Whatever we may say, these two have been the pillars of the attack and the others though good are no way able to fill these boots.
The decline is coming and it is going to speed up. Most great sides are built around a great bowling attack and when that goes they invariably decline. This Aussie side is going the same way.
Well said . But one thing to be sure , Aussies have raised the standard of cricket all over ... They are amazing ... I know their art of Mcgrath is on decline but still , The new comers are'nt that bad . And one thing to be sure no matter what happens the new captains of Australia,they wont be able to keep the left overs of Waugh , Hence Waugh will be remembered as a legend .....SJS said:
Lets see whats gonna happen .......
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twctopcat
International Regular
I'm hoping india can bounce back to finish the aussies off in the next 2 games, would be a great achievement. Then by next summer england will cane them. Fact is no one saw england winning 7 tests in a row this summer and probably won't expext anyhthing the same this winter and into next year, i've got a feeling they will. No-one has seen the likes of Harmison for a while and also freddy on form. The WI and NZ havent worked out how to deal with them and it will take a while until someone does.
After a long long time Harmison has come to the rescue .. A wonderful bowler and a great bowler . A true Fast bowler . No sissy A$$ed medium pacer backed and hyped by eeeediot biased cricket fans ............twctopcat said:
As I said it earlier genuine All rounders and Fast bowlers are not only the beauty but also the need of the game . And some eeeediots keep on arguing that cuz simply their countries dont have them...... You know what spinners are offcourse alive again and why so because when you will tie the hands of a fast bowler and ask him not to bounce and keep on giving expected balls...
Upon the decision making of Bouncer act only Imran and Lloyd opposed that . And others became A$$es . Now you see upon getting quality pacers the law is being modified , First allowed one bouncer in the over and now 2 are allowed and slowly its gonna be waived off completely ... Best of Luck to England ...........
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twctopcat
International Regular
Flintoff and Harmison have the capability to be what Ambrose and Walsh were and we all know how successful they were. The best bowlers can get something out of nothing out of nothing and i think that is what these guys can do. It's been a while since there has been good quick short pitched bowling aimed at the aussies, india etc, should be good viewing.
Absolutely . You see , people have got their interest back into the game .. How beautiful it is to see Shoaib Akhtar charging in and threatening the batsmen . How good is it for the game too ... Wasim , Waqar , Shoaib , Flintoff , Walsh etc etc were the real players ... And Windies of 70's and 80's although had great batsmen too but still they are remembered as for having pacemen ...........................twctopcat said:
Its the cricket ... I myself being a fast bowler know that how the heart pounds when the ball is in the hand and a set batsman is in front .......
People of England seemed quite annoyed by the same old BS cricket in the 90's by England , And now you see they are backing up their team immensly ...
I was doubt ful about Harmison in the begining but after watching him bowl for a whole day on T.V . I have no doubt in my mind that he is the best bowler in the world right now but he has to develop his swing . Thats not a big deal ................
And mind you
......... I am not from That Biased and dark side of CW who say some thing and then politicaly change their subject and keep on hyping up medium pacers which they get once in a while ..................Stay Kool
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I think the reason why Australia is so far ahead of other teams is because of our depth of skill in this country. I have a friend who is an unbelievable left hand first drop bat, he dominated all through juniors and cant even scratch the surface of the NSW side at the moment and he believes he has got better. He played county juniors in england and dominated there as well. The professionalism in cricket in Australia is far higher than the rest, we have the best coaches, training facilities and it is pretty much apart from rugby now a national sport, even other countries are grabbing our coaches for there respective teams, and that says a lot right there. Every team has the potential to be far better than Australia i guess its up to each countries cricket administration to get it right.
Neil Pickup
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Why don't you have any back-up bowling then? 
garage flower
State Vice-Captain
Didn't you watch Williams and Bracken mashing up the Indian batsmen last Christmas?........oh, hang on a minute...Neil Pickup said:Why don't you have any back-up bowling then?
sorry to rain on your parade - but as much as you may be right regarding McGrath & Warne - the Aussies will adapt their team line-ups to counter this as we've already seen in this squad...........horses for courses and more depth re back up bowling to take the pressure off the frontline attack without weakening their batting.........SJS said:
garage flower
State Vice-Captain
Like SJS, I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but on the other hand the only effective test back-up bowler (re)introduced recently has been Kasprowicz - no spring chicken himself.anzac said:
This squad is still heavily reliant on McGrath and Warne so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "the Aussies will adapt their team line-ups to counter this as we've already seen in this squad".
If you're suggesting that some of the specialist batsmen who've recently graduated to the test side are taking the pressure off the frontline attack with their part-time spin bowling I'd disagree entirely. May have misinterpreted you though.