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*Official* Australia in decline thread
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Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Well I went back and checkde again, Yes Australia had won more tests but they also played more and lost more too.Slow Love™ said:
Winning % of Aus - 52, SA - 45
Losing % of Aus - 27, SA - 21
Not much difference I would say.
Anyway Time for me to go home, my one year old is waiting at home. See ya all tomorrow.
Swervy
International Captain
Sanz said:Well I went back and checkde again, Yes Australia had won more tests but they also played more and lost more too.
Winning % of Aus - 52, SA - 45
Losing % of Aus - 27, SA - 21
Not much difference I would say.
Anyway Time for me to go home, my one year old is waiting at home. See ya all tomorrow.
ooooh, you got out just as we were winning...damn!!!!
Slow Love™
International Captain
Enjoy! My son's just on 6 months (and thankfully, fast asleep right now).Sanz said:Well I went back and checkde again, Yes Australia had won more tests but they also played more and lost more too.
Winning % of Aus - 52, SA - 45
Losing % of Aus - 27, SA - 21
Not much difference I would say.
Anyway Time for me to go home, my one year old is waiting at home. See ya all tomorrow.
Certainly those stats would suggest that Australia performed better in tests over that period, even if it's by a slight margin.
Here's an article that demonstrates that you might have a point for that time very early in Waugh's captaincy, just after Australia drew the series in the West Indies and lost to Sri Lanka. But apart from that, from Jan '96 onwards (with a short interruption by the West Indies, who weren't going down without a fight), it was all Australia at the top.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/08/1073437402344.html
This guy has been doing these rankings for some time, and has gone so far as to apply them retroactively, all the way to the late 1800's. Pretty cool stuff, and certainly good as a general guide.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
After Australia beat the Windies in Windies in 1995, they have been acknowledged as the best test side in the world.
As far as ODIs go, Sri Lanka were the best in 1996 clearly. South Africa were the best team up till the 1999 world cup and after the dramatic turn of events in 1999, Australia has by far dominated the one day scene as well..
As far as ODIs go, Sri Lanka were the best in 1996 clearly. South Africa were the best team up till the 1999 world cup and after the dramatic turn of events in 1999, Australia has by far dominated the one day scene as well..
Yup . But still I dont see any one seriously threatning Aussies ATM. Once again the team which has a 60% win percentage is an excellent team but Aussies are even more than 60%. I 've seen so many guys mentioning one odd victories over Austraslia . Australia lost a test series in Pakistan too in the 97-98 I guess and then they lost to India too . But I think this does'nt concludes that the others are catching up .
In my view Srilanka has Improved the most , Their 96 brief period was just like Saqlain's initial period but the others caught up with their game plan . But Srilanka of today is a much balanced team just lacking good quality Fast bowlers . SA sucks now and their game plan is'nt that good now . I am not just saying it because of their recent stupities but overall they are down big time . England is absolutely good and improved but still they are beatable at any place at any time .... Pakistan sucks now and I dont know why they are still winning matches in Inzamam's captaincy . Their recent success to be honest depended mostly upon Yasir Hameed. It does'nt matter that he is just a 40 odd player but the thing is he keeps one end intact even if he makes 19 or 20 odd runs ... India is the team to watch out but they have serious problems with the fast bowling department just like Srilanka . Now the time is for Pakistan and India because they have quite a fair amount of new blood ... And lets see ... But still I dont think that the Aussies are gonna be challenged seriously ... They seem to be a top side may be till 3-4 more years for sure ....
In my view Srilanka has Improved the most , Their 96 brief period was just like Saqlain's initial period but the others caught up with their game plan . But Srilanka of today is a much balanced team just lacking good quality Fast bowlers . SA sucks now and their game plan is'nt that good now . I am not just saying it because of their recent stupities but overall they are down big time . England is absolutely good and improved but still they are beatable at any place at any time .... Pakistan sucks now and I dont know why they are still winning matches in Inzamam's captaincy . Their recent success to be honest depended mostly upon Yasir Hameed. It does'nt matter that he is just a 40 odd player but the thing is he keeps one end intact even if he makes 19 or 20 odd runs ... India is the team to watch out but they have serious problems with the fast bowling department just like Srilanka . Now the time is for Pakistan and India because they have quite a fair amount of new blood ... And lets see ... But still I dont think that the Aussies are gonna be challenged seriously ... They seem to be a top side may be till 3-4 more years for sure ....
Slats4ever
International Vice-Captain
nope. Australia still S*H*I*T on everyone else
Will Scarlet
U19 Debutant
Answering an earlier question, NZ has a lot of emerging batsmen that should displace has-beens like McMillan this season. Not too much on the bowling front though.
And people were suggesting that SL and PAK are the only ODI teams to challenge AUS. NZ have recently thrashed ENG, WI, SA, and PAK. NZ may be weak in tests at the moment but are definitely the second best ODI team on form.
And people were suggesting that SL and PAK are the only ODI teams to challenge AUS. NZ have recently thrashed ENG, WI, SA, and PAK. NZ may be weak in tests at the moment but are definitely the second best ODI team on form.
LISTEN DUDE , Kiwis are certainly the best fielding side in the world . And thats the only reason why they are so successful in the one day format. But they are dependent upon the conditions . On the flat tracks they can't just pull off a series against any south asian side . Or can they Or have they ? For me after Aussies I think only Pakistan and South Africa are the two sides who have performed well on tours ... check the records ..Will Scarlet said:
