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**Official** 2004 Natwest Series (Eng, NZL, WI)
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marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Funny how quiet you were throughout the earlier part of the season (you remember the Test series right? - I think New Zealand lost it 3-0)nibblet said:
At least most Kiwis had the grace to post during that time, rather than coming in now (rather like Man United supporters) and crowing after a couple of victories.
Mingster
State Regular
Good allrounder effort from the Black Caps last night.
Styris is a very underrated bowler, especially by Ian Botham who labelled him "nothing more than a part-timer". He bowled great lines yesterday, and kept it tight all along the innings and bowled very well near the death.
Jacob Oram was simply outstanding. A year ago, he was nothing more than a genuine second-change medium pacer and now he is near world-class ODI seam bowler. Oram and Cairns as our death bowlers looks pretty good to me.
I'm with Kent on Franklin, he's still a bit wayward for me to cut it at ODI level. Butler can afford to be a bit loose now and then because he has that added pace, but Franklin was only hovering around 78m/h which is only around 125km/h. For some reason, he wasn't trying to swing the new ball yesterday. He bowled it cross-seam for quite a period. Odd.
Any news on the Tuffey injury? Because it looks like we'll need him at the top with Oram to open the bowling.
NatWest Final Team - Astle, Fleming, Marshall, Styris, McMillan, Cairns, Oram, Hopkins+, Vettori, Tuffey, Butler.
At this stage, I would prefer Butler over Franklin. The ND man's first spell was great, shame that he got a bit smacked near the death.
Styris is a very underrated bowler, especially by Ian Botham who labelled him "nothing more than a part-timer". He bowled great lines yesterday, and kept it tight all along the innings and bowled very well near the death.
Jacob Oram was simply outstanding. A year ago, he was nothing more than a genuine second-change medium pacer and now he is near world-class ODI seam bowler. Oram and Cairns as our death bowlers looks pretty good to me.
I'm with Kent on Franklin, he's still a bit wayward for me to cut it at ODI level. Butler can afford to be a bit loose now and then because he has that added pace, but Franklin was only hovering around 78m/h which is only around 125km/h. For some reason, he wasn't trying to swing the new ball yesterday. He bowled it cross-seam for quite a period. Odd.
Any news on the Tuffey injury? Because it looks like we'll need him at the top with Oram to open the bowling.
NatWest Final Team - Astle, Fleming, Marshall, Styris, McMillan, Cairns, Oram, Hopkins+, Vettori, Tuffey, Butler.
At this stage, I would prefer Butler over Franklin. The ND man's first spell was great, shame that he got a bit smacked near the death.
Mingster
State Regular
I'm sorry Marc. I didn't know when you registered that you have to post in every single match. I'm sorry for not posting when the Black Caps were getting beaten in the Tests. I shall read the agreement again.marc71178 said:
I don't know which page it is. But it was the one where you posted 18 posts in a row.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I wasn't actually talking about you, more the people who remain very quiet when their side is losing, yet appear when they win and make pathetic posts of glory - some people have to learn to take the rough with the smooth.Mingster said:
It was the "again" part that made it particularly poor, considering how they'd lost 3 times in 3 Tests, but not one Englishman felt the need to make a post of that nature,
Mingster said:
18 is not a full page though...
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
A lot of bowlers tend to bowl every match (witness England with McGrath (A), Collingwood, Vaughan and Clarke) - that doesn't make them full time.
Styris is a useful option as a 6th bowler, but not one you'd want to ask to bowl 10 every game with no cover (such as a Styris)
Styris is a useful option as a 6th bowler, but not one you'd want to ask to bowl 10 every game with no cover (such as a Styris)
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
From what I heard today, he did, but the umpire declined to give it.Mingster said:
The TMS commentary was particularly humourous - something along the lines of:
Harris on 199 wickets and he bowls to Flintoff and there it is his 200th wicket, well done to him, but the umpire hasn't given it.
Cue laughter in the background.
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
Aggers kept trying to refer to the fact that NZ are only winning because England & The West Indies were playing poorly..and to some extent he's right, but they've been playing poorly in ODI cricket for awhile.
NZ have now won 8 consecutive ODI's and their record this year is now 12 wins in 14 matches so they must be doing something right.
NZ have now won 8 consecutive ODI's and their record this year is now 12 wins in 14 matches so they must be doing something right.