Most Overrated Player?

[Thelwell]

A* for you Neil.

 

[Thelwell]

What can you find if i say:

Bond is a better bowler than Lee

Vaas is more accurate than McGrath

Sarwan is better than Gayle

 

[PY]

What can you find if i say:

Vaas is more accurate than McGrath

Your pills?

 

[Neil Pickup]

Those are all matters of opinion - one of which I would agree with, one I wouldn't, and one I haven't seen enough of the two to give a credible answer.

Your argument - that Gough was overrated because he took many more tailend wickets than toporder - was presented as corroborating evidence - "fact".

And as for "University Style Investigations" - Five minutes, tops, on HowStat.com...

 

[Thelwell]

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[PY]

 

[Craig]

I think Darren Lehmann is an over-rated Test batsman.

Besides from injury and being down the pecking order, he has scored his runs against a rubbish bowling from WI and Bangladesh.

Carl Hooper IMO is over-rated.

 

[Gaijin-san]

I think Darren Lehmann is an over-rated Test batsman.

Ding.

 

[iamdavid]

I think Darren Lehmann is an over-rated Test batsman.

Besides from injury and being down the pecking order, he has scored his runs against a rubbish bowling from WI and Bangladesh.

Carl Hooper IMO is over-rated.

Lehmann does still have a point to prove against quality bowling , but I have every confidence he'll do that in Sri Lanka & India.

Funny you mention Hooper as he'd be one of the most under rated cricketers in recent memory for me.

A potentially brilliant batsman who never fulfilled his ability , although he was bloody brilliant to watch.
One of the best slip feildsman of the last decade.
A handy off spinner , could be a handfull in real helpful conditions & tie up an end elsewhere.
Plus a pretty good skipper in the circumstances , a role model to all the younger West Indian batsman (Sarwan , Gayle , Samuels).

 

[V Reddy]

a role model to all the younger West Indian batsman (Sarwan , Gayle , Samuels).

They are modeling on him alright

 

[Anil]

Carl Hooper IMO is over-rated.

Hooper is one of the biggest underachievers in cricket.....wonderful talent, very stylish, but never played with any consistency.....

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I think Hooper is a disappointment, but not over-rated. Many people rate him as a talented underachiever (talented at batting and underachieving), so I don't think you can say he's over-rated.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Plus a pretty good skipper in the circumstances , a role model to all the younger West Indian batsman (Sarwan , Gayle , Samuels).

I don't think Hooper was a good captain. A couple of reasons why..

1/ He seemed to go into every game with an attitude not to lose, rather than to try to win.

2/ He allegedly told the best spinner in West Indies cricket that he would not play for the team again, due to a trivial squabble.

In general he seemed a decent guy though and was very determined to succeed when he returned to the team.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

They are modeling on him alright

Only Samuels. :P

 

[Thelwell]

I think Hooper is a disappointment, but not over-rated. Many people rate him as a talented underachiever (talented at batting and underachieving), so I don't think you can say he's over-rated.

I think your spot on. The guy could do no wrong in first class cricket, he was awesome for Lancashire last season. But then he could never do anythin right in international cricket. His captaincy spell was a bit unfortunate as he did have a fair poor team to work with (apart from Lara, Sarwan and chaunderpual), having said that they'd probably got into super 6 in 2003 WC if the one match hadnt been rained off.

Never oer rated, just never delivered. Much like Graeme Hick for england, promised so much but delivered so little.

 

[Craig]

And he delieriabilty stuffed Lara up IMO when he lost the captaincy by pulling out of the Guyana Test at the last moment.

I know he wanted to give youngsters a go, fine make that annoucement a week or two before the Test so the selectors would have some knowledge before hand and not pick him, or play in the Test and then say that he wants the youngsters to have a go.

He knew damn well that Sarwan was in doubt for the Test/or ruled out.

 

[Neil Pickup]

delieriabilty

deliberately?

 

[PY]

deliberately?

Apologies to all members of CW.

We now have a grammar fascist on the Staff. As you can tell, he's a bit enthusiastic at the moment. Give him time to settle in.

:P

 

[Neil Pickup]

I was honestly trying to work out what the word was!

 

[scud101]

No.1 overrated players are S.Ganguly and VVS Laxman .. no doubt!

Why VVS Laxman? Because he scores heaps and heaps against Australia!?
I don't understand the logic behind people's opinions sometimes.

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