Jasprit Bumrah

[kyear2]

And McGrath played against distinctly better batting lineups.

Easily.

 

[kyear2]

Bumrah having a series here like Warne did in 05. If it wasn't for him a tight series would be dramatically the other way.

Some bowler, hope he stays fit for the next few years and he gets somewhere near 400 wickets.

Near 400 with these numbers, he's likely the GOAT, definitely in the top 4.

 

[Wanna_Be_AB]

So interesting question for the all rounder crowd.

Do they also say that factoring in captaincy and batting that Cummins is better than Bumrah?

I am biased towards Bumrah because he is my current favourite and best bowler since Steyn but as an all round package Cummins might be better.
Note - Bumrah never got much of a chance to prove himself as a captain. And as far as I remember he has captained in 2 Tests.
1 in Eng in 2021 and 1 at Adelaide in this series with a win percentage of 50%

 

[trundler]

Interesting random coincidink with McGrath. Cummins has now played the same amount of tests as McGrath did in the 2000’s.

McGrath 66 tests 131 innings 297 @ 20.53 14 5’fers 2 10’fers SR 51.4
Cummins 66 tests 123 innings 289 @ 22.50 13 5’fers 2 10’fers SR 46.4

Both have been crazy in Aus but Cummins well behind McGrath away.

Cummins would also average 23 without D/N tests so his home record is subtly padded in comparison to McGrath too.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

In edition to having one of the great years that any test bowler has had, Bumrah also won of POTS in the greatest single individual campaign for a T20 player. Let that sink in

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

In edition to having one of the great years that any test bowler has had, Bumrah also won of POTS in the greatest single individual campaign for a T20 player. Let that sink in

Definitely the Greatest campaign for a bowler. Kohli was even better imho.

 

[OverratedSanity]

So interesting question for the all rounder crowd.

Do they also say that factoring in captaincy and batting that Cummins is better than Bumrah?

Career wise, Cummins is probably a better bowler than bumrah anyway, he's just had a bit of a tough patch the last few years. He's not even a mediocre batsman so not sure how batting even factors in.

Mind you he'd make our xi as a specialist batsman ahead of rohit and Kohli .

 

[GIMH]

He should get man of the series quite easily, but if Smith tons up again in Sydney, or Dreamboat Pat gets another 5 for/cracks a 50, I wouldn't be surprised to see them go with the winning team.

Bumrah deserves it though, He has had an amazing series. The polar opposite to the many whimpering, ineffectual English bowlers we have seen stain these shores since the year 2000.

This lot were quite effective

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[ankitj]

Career wise, Cummins is probably a better bowler than bumrah anyway

How so? Bumrah has better average, SR and even wpm which used to be lower. And of course Bumrah is not one trick pony or too dependent on conditions

 

[SkyBlue]

How so? Bumrah has better average, SR and even wpm which used to be lower. And of course Bumrah is not one trick pony or too dependent on conditions

Cummins has been doing it longer but Bumrah's peak is probably better than Cummins'

For me, Bumrah is the best all format bowler of this generation while Cummins has the edge in test cricket purely due to longevity.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Nah Cummins has never succeeded in Asia(apart from one series in Pak). Bumrah has success at home, Aus, SA, Eng. A more complete record

 

[SkyBlue]

Nah Cummins has never succeeded in Asia(apart from one series in Pak). Bumrah has success at home, Aus, SA, Eng. A more complete record

Overall body of work matters imo

This is like saying Root isn't an all time test great because he hasn't scored a century in Australia

 

[Gob]

Don't think Cummins has played all that much in Asia

 

[Gob]

But it's safe to say that Cummins has never operated at the level Bumrah has been treading over the last 18 months or so. Probably no one I've seen have. Not just the numbers but what he does with the ball

And both need a 7 fer. I can't stress this enough

 

[nightprowler10]

A more complete record

Missing the biggest challenge, Pakistan. We dock Lillee points for a reason.

It's a complete mystery how he would handle Shan Masood.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Both Bumrah and Cummins are on track to be in my top 10 fast bowlers

 

[Coronis]

Overall body of work matters imo

This is like saying Root isn't an all time test great because he hasn't scored a century in Australia

@subshakerz is Root an all time test great?

 

[kyear2]

@subshakerz is Root an all time test great?

Not directed towards me, but would say no.

 

[Wanna_Be_AB]

How many bowlers can claim to have a better year than Bumrah's 2024?

 

[capt_Luffy]

So interesting question for the all rounder crowd.

Do they also say that factoring in captaincy and batting that Cummins is better than Bumrah?

Lol Cummins' batting is hardly worth anything..... But career wise, that might just be enough to put them next to each other.
In this series, Bumrah has a 100% win record as a captain and has played a vital innings in ensuring the draw on the 3rd Test.