Coaching Talents of Greg Chappell

[Sanz]

1. Irfan Pathan became a world Class Allrounder
2. Zaheer Khan became a County Bowler
3. MS Dhoni became a Test batsman
4. Rahul Dravid became an ODI and TEST opener

..and Finally

5. Chappell Became a non-playing Captain of Team India.

With so mant achievment within a short span of one year, I propose Chappell as the Coach of the Year, Coach of the Decade and Coach of the Century award.

With him as our coach, India are poised to take any tournament they participate into including the Champions trophy and World Cup.

 

[Shabash Tapash]

Dravid was previously an opener but has dropped down the order since the appointment of chappel

 

[Dravid]

I hate Greg Chappell with passion. He is imo, the worst coach India ever had. Only good thing that has came out from his term as coach is Ganguly being dropped, because im not a huge Ganguly fan. Besides that I just hate Greg.

He has the stupidest tactics ever. Making Dravid open was the biggest one out of them all.

 

[silentstriker]

And India went on the best winning streak in their ODI history. John Wright was the best, but I think Gregg is fine. Anyone thats an outsider (not Indian) is fine by me. They have to be an outsider to Indian politics.

 

[Slow Love™]

Time for the old avatar to come back out, Sanz.

Out of curiosity, what's the general perception of Chappell's performance inside India at the moment?

 

[silentstriker]

Time for the old avatar to come back out, Sanz.

Out of curiosity, what's the general perception of Chappell's performance inside India at the moment?

VERY controversial. Some people, like me, think he is great. A lot of others, think he is rubbish (especially those in the Ganguly camp).

 

[adharcric]

VERY controversial. Some people, like me, think he is great. A lot of others, think he is rubbish (especially those in the Ganguly camp).

The "general" perception inside India doesn't mean ****, because a large number of fans in India are idiots who get swayed by the slightest hint of media propaganda. I would say he's shown poor man management, mediocre tactics and good discipline and training methods.

 

[Dravid]

The "general" perception inside India doesn't mean ****, because a large number of fans in India are idiots who get swayed by the slightest hint of media propaganda. I would say he's shown poor man management, mediocre tactics and good discipline and training methods.

That is a thing I will agree with you on. If you watch the sports news on TV or read the papers in India...the amount of propaganda on the Indian cricket team is just fascinating. They never cover the full story, and fans in India fall for it and believe whatever the media wants them to about the team.

 

[Turbinator]

Chappel is just here as a secret agent from the australian cricket board to ruin Indian cricket so that once Indian cricket is out of the way, australia can finally start winning some matches.

 

[Dravid]

Chappel is just here as a secret agent from the australian cricket board to ruin Indian cricket so that once Indian cricket is out of the way, australia can finally start winning some matches.

Aren't they already winning enough?

 

[Slow Love™]

The "general" perception inside India doesn't mean ****, because a large number of fans in India are idiots who get swayed by the slightest hint of media propaganda. I would say he's shown poor man management, mediocre tactics and good discipline and training methods.

Poor man management and "good discipline" are probably fairly related in his case, though.

So is the perception of Chappell so utterly polarised, based on whether people are pro-Ganguly or not? I'm interested in what Sanz has to say on the subject though, 'cause he's always appeared to be in neither camp. I was also wondering whether the perception is that he (Chappell) has the full confidence of his playing group by now.

 

[Sanz]

Poor man management and "good discipline" are probably fairly related in his case, though.

So is the perception of Chappell so utterly polarised, based on whether people are pro-Ganguly or not? I'm interested in what Sanz has to say on the subject though, 'cause he's always appeared to be in neither camp. I was also wondering whether the perception is that he (Chappell) has the full confidence of his playing group by now.

Initially it was like that, those who were pro-Ganguly were anti-Chappell and those who were anti-Ganguly were Pro-Chappell and would even bash the likes of John Wright, who tried very hard to improve Indian Cricket and did very well in trying to do so.

But off late, things have been changing, people have gotten over Ganguly issue and are actually getting fed up of Chappell's stupid experimentation and his lack of coaching. As for whether Chappell has full confidence of his players, I seriously doubt it. Players are not speaking up because they are afraid to speak up after the Ganguly Fiasco.

As for the Avtaar, I want to wait until the ICC KO trophy.

 

[Sanz]

The "general" perception inside India doesn't mean ****, because a large number of fans in India are idiots who get swayed by the slightest hint of media propaganda. I would say he's shown poor man management, mediocre tactics and good discipline and training methods.

Before calling the majority of fans in India as 'stupid', you should look at your posts in last couple of months esp the ones about Raina, Munaf, Santh etc.

 

[Sanz]

And India went on the best winning streak in their ODI history. John Wright was the best, but I think Gregg is fine. Anyone thats an outsider (not Indian) is fine by me. They have to be an outsider to Indian politics.

So why not have someone who can actually coach. Btw are you keeping track of our losing streak as well ?

 

[C_C]

One thing any coach needs to undersands when it comes to coaching India: It is by far the most diverse nation on the planet. Its not rare to find teammates in the national team who'd not be able to communicate with each other. There is no 'mainstream' culture for India is a country with zillions of cultures in it.
And inorder to make it all work, the coach has to be a God in man management department first and foremost. This is pretty much the only reason why Ganguly dragged india to be one of the top teams in tests from being near the bottom of the pile-especially comming off the Azhar-Prabhakar matchfixing fiasco. He was a God in man management even though his tactical awareness were not all that hot.
Its not like Australia where there is one monolithic mainstream culture and attitude towards sports. So managing people is the essence there. And this is what Chappell so callously disregards. You can be tactical and fitness whiz. But if you disregard man management aspect in an Indian team, you are gonna fail.
Also, Indian players are mostly there despite the system, not because of the system ala Australia. As such, they are a lot less trusting of the authorities in BCCI and the coaching staff. And a coach can get away with challenging the likes of Dravid-Tendulkar or Kumble to perform. But with a youngster, a challenge would fail far more often than succeed- because the youngster is not an automatic in the team and he doesnt automatically assume that the coach is there to support him and not undermine him.

 

[adharcric]

Before calling the majority of fans in India as 'stupid', you should look at your posts in last couple of months esp the ones about Raina, Munaf, Santh etc.

I haven't called any of the three world-class. I believe all are exciting prospects and I'll admit that I am an optimistic fan. I haven't made comments on them because of what anyone has said. I've watched all three in action and analyzed them and then come to conclusions. Let's get to the point. Don't you agree with my comment that too many Indian fans are blindly swayed by media propaganda?

 

[Xuhaib]

Chappel is just here as a secret agent from the australian cricket board to ruin Indian cricket so that once Indian cricket is out of the way, australia can finally start winning some matches.

You should have added a cheeky smiley with this post i am sure you were not serious.

 

[Sanz]

I haven't called any of the three world-class. I believe all are exciting prospects and I'll admit that I am an optimistic fan. I haven't made comments on them because of what anyone has said. I've watched all three in action and analyzed them and then come to conclusions. Let's get to the point. Don't you agree with my comment that too many Indian fans are blindly swayed by media propaganda?

No, I dont.

 

[Fratboy]

Of course, Dravid is entirely blameless.

 

[Sanz]

Of course, Dravid is entirely blameless.

How is Dravid responsible for Irfan Pathan's rise as a world class allrounder ? Irfan was just a bowler until Chappel came and now he is threating to become the best allrounder since Sobers and if he continues to improve at this speed, he will be miles ahead of Sobers when he hangs up his shoes. All thanks to Chappell's coaching skills.