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Coaching Talents of Greg Chappell

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Out of curiosity Sanz, do you reckon Chappell is responsible for Pathan's demise. By that I mean Chappell giving Pathan more batting responsibilities?
 

Fratboy

School Boy/Girl Captain
You can fault Chappell for a degree for failing to rectify Pathan's bowling woes, but do you have undeniable proof that Chappell was solely responsible for Pathan's promotion in the batting order ?
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
Out of curiosity Sanz, do you reckon Chappell is responsible for Pathan's demise. By that I mean Chappell giving Pathan more batting responsibilities?
There has to be a reason why Pathan has suddenly become so unplayable(pun intended) and all Chappell has done is offer excuses. I dont see any improvement in any player since Chappell.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Fratboy said:
do you have undeniable proof that Chappell was solely responsible for Pathan's promotion in the batting order ?
Did I claim any such thing ?
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Fratboy said:
Then shouldn't the thread title also include mention of Dravid's captaincy skills ?
Oh so every time one criticizes Chappell, Dravid has to be criticized, right ? I wonder why it didn't happen when India were winning those games and Chappell was getting all the Glory.
 

Fratboy

School Boy/Girl Captain
Sanz said:
Oh so every time one criticizes Chappell, Dravid has to be criticized, right ? I wonder why it didn't happen when India were winning those games and Chappell was getting all the Glory.
I would have posted something similar in my first post on this topic, but didn't. Anyway, here it is: "Why is it that Chappell gets blamed when India loses, but the players are praised when India win?" Instead of sidetracking, you can simply accept that Dravid's innocence in this matter isn't a given.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Fratboy said:
I would have posted something similar in my first post on this topic, but didn't. Anyway, here it is: "Why is it that Chappell gets blamed when India loses, but the players are praised when India win?" Instead of sidetracking, you can simply accept that Dravid's innocence in this matter isn't a given.
First of all only person that is sidetracking this thread is YOU and secondly I am not blaming chappell for India's loss, I am blaming him for poor performance of folks like Irfan Pathan, MS Dhoni etc.

Lastly, it is a fact that Chappell gets more praise than the players when India wins., all you need to do is look @ CricInfo and read.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Sanz said:
First of all only person that is sidetracking this thread is YOU and secondly I am not blaming chappell for India's loss, I am blaming him for poor performance of folks like Irfan Pathan, MS Dhoni etc.

Lastly, it is a fact that Chappell gets more praise than the players when India wins., all you need to do is look @ CricInfo and read.
Does cricinfo control your mind? I praise the players (as well as Chappell, but the players more) when we win, not sure about you.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Xuhaib said:
You should have added a cheeky smiley with this post i am sure you were not serious.
Cheeky smiley suits that post only if Javed Miandad was the coach !!
 

FRAZ

International Captain
I guess Chapps is one of the best things ever happened to the Indian cricket . Problem with Indian and Pakistani boards has been that they make the team by the name and past repute which proves to be the most damaging thing ever . Chapps introduced this team oriented strategy and his good assistance in the removal of some old horses has been appreciated by me . Imran rarely praises any coach and he did praise Greg . And I believe in Imran's comments . Greg is way more technically correct than his Pakistani counterpart . Irfan has limited cricketing capacity but has a good hand eye coordination , brain and lethal temperament ,And thats what has made Irfan ,a very important member of the Indian team due to Greg's polishing . Dravid is a killer of a captain in the Indian side , Now they have good hitters like Dhoni and athletic youngsters . The only ingredients that Indian team lacks is the above 90 percentile Fast bowlers and fitness . Well they have made noticeable improvements in the above mentioned drawbacks under his supervision but still a long way to go. Best of luck Greg !!!
 
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Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
Does cricinfo control your mind?
No, CricInfo doesn't control my mind. I suggested CricInfo because it is the most popular cricket news source and easily available on the web.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Just out of curiosity, can you show me evidence of where Cricinfo repeatedly praises Chappell and not the players/captain for a team win? Not disputing your claim, but it hasn't blatantly stood out to me as of yet.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Exactly. If anything, I see a lot of vitriolic hatred from the pro-Ganguly camp, who are still not over his axing.
 

C_C

International Captain
Irfan has limited cricketing capacity but has a good hand eye coordination , brain and lethal temperament ,And thats what has made Irfan ,a very important member of the Indian team due to Greg's polishing . Dravid is a killer of a captain in the Indian side
Are you selling tickets for the ride to the parallel dimension you inhabit,my good sir ?
:) :ph34r:
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
Just out of curiosity, can you show me evidence of where Cricinfo repeatedly praises Chappell and not the players/captain for a team win? Not disputing your claim, but it hasn't blatantly stood out to me as of yet.
Dont make stupid posts, first you attack me for mentioniong Cricinfo by asking 'if it control my mind' and now I made my position clear you ask me to post cricinfo articles which praise chappell and dont praise players/captains for the team win.

Why dont you go and take a look at no. of Greg interviews that have been published on Cricinfo since the English tour and no. of Chappell interviews oublished during Eng/SL tour.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
Exactly. If anything, I see a lot of vitriolic hatred from the pro-Ganguly camp, who are still not over his axing.
Oh please if anyone has any displayed his bias in this thread then it is you as Greg becomes a great coach by virtue of being an outsider.

Ganguly issue is dead and buried, even Ganguly knows that.
 

Dravid

International Captain
Sanz said:
First of all only person that is sidetracking this thread is YOU and secondly I am not blaming chappell for India's loss, I am blaming him for poor performance of folks like Irfan Pathan, MS Dhoni etc.

Lastly, it is a fact that Chappell gets more praise than the players when India wins., all you need to do is look @ CricInfo and read.
You just proved adharcric's point about media propaganda with the Indian cricket team, after you said you don't agree with it.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Sanz said:
Oh please if anyone has any displayed his bias in this thread then it is you as Greg becomes a great coach by virtue of being an outsider.
I will please ask you to quote where I said that. I said I would be fine with an appointment as long as he's not from India, because he would not be part of the internal politics. That doesn't mean they will end up being a good coach, but as long as its an outsider, I'm willing to give them a shot.
 

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