There has to be a reason why Pathan has suddenly become so unplayable(pun intended) and all Chappell has done is offer excuses. I dont see any improvement in any player since Chappell.Jono said:Out of curiosity Sanz, do you reckon Chappell is responsible for Pathan's demise. By that I mean Chappell giving Pathan more batting responsibilities?
Did I claim any such thing ?Fratboy said:do you have undeniable proof that Chappell was solely responsible for Pathan's promotion in the batting order ?
Then shouldn't the thread title also include mention of Dravid's captaincy skills ?Sanz said:Did I claim any such thing ?
Oh so every time one criticizes Chappell, Dravid has to be criticized, right ? I wonder why it didn't happen when India were winning those games and Chappell was getting all the Glory.Fratboy said:Then shouldn't the thread title also include mention of Dravid's captaincy skills ?
I would have posted something similar in my first post on this topic, but didn't. Anyway, here it is: "Why is it that Chappell gets blamed when India loses, but the players are praised when India win?" Instead of sidetracking, you can simply accept that Dravid's innocence in this matter isn't a given.Sanz said:Oh so every time one criticizes Chappell, Dravid has to be criticized, right ? I wonder why it didn't happen when India were winning those games and Chappell was getting all the Glory.
First of all only person that is sidetracking this thread is YOU and secondly I am not blaming chappell for India's loss, I am blaming him for poor performance of folks like Irfan Pathan, MS Dhoni etc.Fratboy said:I would have posted something similar in my first post on this topic, but didn't. Anyway, here it is: "Why is it that Chappell gets blamed when India loses, but the players are praised when India win?" Instead of sidetracking, you can simply accept that Dravid's innocence in this matter isn't a given.
Does cricinfo control your mind? I praise the players (as well as Chappell, but the players more) when we win, not sure about you.Sanz said:First of all only person that is sidetracking this thread is YOU and secondly I am not blaming chappell for India's loss, I am blaming him for poor performance of folks like Irfan Pathan, MS Dhoni etc.
Lastly, it is a fact that Chappell gets more praise than the players when India wins., all you need to do is look @ CricInfo and read.
Cheeky smiley suits that post only if Javed Miandad was the coach !!Xuhaib said:You should have added a cheeky smiley with this post i am sure you were not serious.
No, CricInfo doesn't control my mind. I suggested CricInfo because it is the most popular cricket news source and easily available on the web.adharcric said:Does cricinfo control your mind?
Are you selling tickets for the ride to the parallel dimension you inhabit,my good sir ?Irfan has limited cricketing capacity but has a good hand eye coordination , brain and lethal temperament ,And thats what has made Irfan ,a very important member of the Indian team due to Greg's polishing . Dravid is a killer of a captain in the Indian side
Dont make stupid posts, first you attack me for mentioniong Cricinfo by asking 'if it control my mind' and now I made my position clear you ask me to post cricinfo articles which praise chappell and dont praise players/captains for the team win.adharcric said:Just out of curiosity, can you show me evidence of where Cricinfo repeatedly praises Chappell and not the players/captain for a team win? Not disputing your claim, but it hasn't blatantly stood out to me as of yet.
Oh please if anyone has any displayed his bias in this thread then it is you as Greg becomes a great coach by virtue of being an outsider.silentstriker said:Exactly. If anything, I see a lot of vitriolic hatred from the pro-Ganguly camp, who are still not over his axing.
You just proved adharcric's point about media propaganda with the Indian cricket team, after you said you don't agree with it.Sanz said:First of all only person that is sidetracking this thread is YOU and secondly I am not blaming chappell for India's loss, I am blaming him for poor performance of folks like Irfan Pathan, MS Dhoni etc.
Lastly, it is a fact that Chappell gets more praise than the players when India wins., all you need to do is look @ CricInfo and read.
I will please ask you to quote where I said that. I said I would be fine with an appointment as long as he's not from India, because he would not be part of the internal politics. That doesn't mean they will end up being a good coach, but as long as its an outsider, I'm willing to give them a shot.Sanz said:Oh please if anyone has any displayed his bias in this thread then it is you as Greg becomes a great coach by virtue of being an outsider.