Cheating

[GIMH]

Laws of the game allow it tbh

 

[Himannv]

Look, I'm a bit the same too.

What the cynic in me would say, though, is that the ball (seemingly) made its first contact it was with the upper part of the hand, which was a fair way above the ground in comparison to where he'd be expecting to take the ball.

The cynic in you is far too cynical imo.

 

[andyc]

Can someone explain what the big fuss over the jellybeans thing was?

 

[vcs]

You rarely know whether the ball bounced or not when it happens so close to the fingers. I'll give benefit of the doubt to Dhoni.

I'd really expect Dhoni to have known that it bounced based on where it hit the gloves, pretty high up on the palm. This isn't the usual case where the ball practically bounces just as the fingers are coming underneath as we see with several catches taken in the circle.

The slips would have had no way of knowing though, TBF.

 

[marc71178]

Can someone explain what the big fuss over the jellybeans thing was?

The public didn't like it.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Laws of the game allow it tbh

Grey area at worst, I'd say. Spit's allowed for polishing but not "outside agents" (or wording akin, CBA to check). So I think it depends if slavia with sugar from Murray Mints is considered at outside agent.

 

[GIMH]

Don't see how it can be as it is still just saliva.

 

[vcs]

Can someone explain what the big fuss over the jellybeans thing was?

It was mostly a windup aimed at Zaheer rather than anything else IMO. All worked out very well for us in the end.

 

[Burgey]

I'd really expect Dhoni to have known that it bounced based on where it hit the gloves, pretty high up on the palm. This isn't the usual case where the ball practically bounces just as the fingers are coming underneath as we see with several catches taken in the circle.

The slips would have had no way of knowing though, TBF.

Haha what? The slips wouldn't have any idea? None of them? Come on mate.. Get fair dinkum...

 

[GotSpin]

Haha what? The slips wouldn't have any idea? None of them? Come on mate.. Get fair dinkum...

Yeah was just gonna write that. The slips would have the best view easily...

 

[Teja.]

Haha what? The slips wouldn't have any idea? None of them? Come on mate.. Get fair dinkum...

The Slips would have no way of seeing whether the keeper grounded it in real time, looked extremely close unless seen in Slo-Mo.

 

[Burgey]

Don't see how it can be as it is still just saliva.

Right ****, then I will get our blokes to have a mouth full of leather polish in their gobs come November and have them say, when asked, it's still just saliva.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Yeah, I'd be giving first slip a free pass. 2nd and any other onwards (don't even know if they were there in that situation) you'd imagine would have had a very good view of it, and the way that it popped up in Dhoni's hand.

 

[GotSpin]

The Slips would have no way of seeing whether the keeper grounded it in real time, looked extremely close unless seen in Slo-Mo.

Not sure if you've ever fielded in the cordon, but it's really easy too see where the ball lands for the keeper especially from the wider cordon

 

[vcs]

Haha what? The slips wouldn't have any idea? None of them? Come on mate.. Get fair dinkum...

We have no real way of knowing, do we? I haven't fielded much in the slips but would you blame them for going up with the keeper? It just bounces in the general area of the keeper's gloves. You need a slow-mo replay from the front to confirm that it bounced.

 

[GIMH]

Right ****, then I will get our blokes to have a mouth full of leather polish in their gobs come November and have them say, when asked, it's still just saliva.

Your bowlers need all the help they can get mate, we mate as well make the series competitive by giving those smelly descendants of our bike robbers a chance.

 

[Top_Cat]

We have no real way of knowing, do we? I haven't fielded much in the slips but would you blame them for going up with the keeper? It just bounces in the general area of the keeper's gloves. You need a slow-mo replay from the front to confirm that it bounced.

We do, yes, mainly because we're looking straight down the pitch. 2nd slip onwards being right in the cordon, not so much.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah, I'd be giving first slip a free pass. 2nd and any other onwards (don't even know if they were there in that situation) you'd imagine would have had a very good view of it, and the way that it popped up in Dhoni's hand.

In my heart's deepest dreams, Tendulkar is at gully...

 

[vcs]

We do, yes, mainly because we're looking straight down the pitch. 2nd slip onwards being right in the cordon, not so much.

No, I meant "We have no real way of knowing whether the slip fielders knew it was grounded, do we?". Burgey sort of stated it as a fact that the slips would know.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I don't blame anyone for going up when the keeper goes up like that, and celebrating. I don't really blame Dhoni that much, I've taken a few catches that team-mates have thought mustn't have carried, but I honestly think that they did. Would be interested to ever see replays of them, maybe I was wrong!