Cheating

[GotSpin]

No, I meant "We have no real way of knowing whether the slip fielders knew it was grounded, do we?". Burgey sort of stated it as a fact that the slips would know.

The slips probably thought what the hell, we'll go along with it. While first slip may not have been able to see, second slip has a perfect view since they're usually positioned in line with the keeper

 

[vcs]

The slips probably thought what the hell, we'll go along with it. While first slip may not have been able to see, second slip has a perfect view since they're usually positioned in line with the keeper

It's hard to tell from the video but I wouldn't be surprised if the gloves were partly obscuring the view from the side. You need a replay from the front to be absolutely sure.

Either way, I think there's enough doubt in there to give the slip cordon the benefit.

 

[Spark]

Here's my beef. Yes, he's in the wrong. Yes, inadvertently or otherwise, he's cheating. I don't feel though, that it's fair or reasonable to then to around tagging him as a cheater for the rest of his career, which is what some people seem to revel in doing for some of our players.

 

[Himannv]

I don't blame anyone for going up when the keeper goes up like that, and celebrating. I don't really blame Dhoni that much, I've taken a few catches that team-mates have thought mustn't have carried, but I honestly think that they did. Would be interested to ever see replays of them, maybe I was wrong!

The slips probably thought what the hell, we'll go along with it. While first slip may not have been able to see, second slip has a perfect view since they're usually positioned in line with the keeper

Depends on how alert they were at slips.

Bah, personally I dont think there's anything wrong. Its easy to be mistaken in this and this took place within seconds. Mostly things like this are just instictive guesses based on a few freeze frames in the mind. Severely overreaching and mostly guesswork is the best that can be put forward and sorry, but thats not good enough. Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[GotSpin]

Depends on how alert they were at slips.

Bah, personally I dont think there's anything wrong. Its easy to be mistaken in this and this took place within seconds. Mostly things like this are just instictive guesses based on a few freeze frames in the mind. Severely overreaching and mostly guesswork is the best that can be put forward and sorry, but thats not good enough. Innocent until proven guilty.

Of course!

But like VO mentioned previously, surely Dhoni would also have realised the difference in the way the ball went into his gloves. From my experience, when you're lunging forward and taking a sharp catch you take it using the fingers mainly, but when there's a bounce, it's more likely to go deeper into your hands - If this makes sense. Maybe he got caught up in the moment

 

[Edged&Taken]

Bucknor &^%$#@

 

[Flem274*]

 

[sledger]

 

[Shri]

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[Migara]

I'd really expect Dhoni to have known that it bounced based on where it hit the gloves, pretty high up on the palm. This isn't the usual case where the ball practically bounces just as the fingers are coming underneath as we see with several catches taken in the circle.

The slips would have had no way of knowing though, TBF.

At least no one indicated it was out to the umpire

 

[silentstriker]

How can anyone forget St Dhoni's effort with the bounced catch from Pietersen that landed a foot in front of him?

The entire Indian team should stand condemned for that, well at least the slips cordon, who all were happy to maintain the appeal when they must have seen where it landed. This thing wasnt even close, it bounced so far in front of him it was an insult to common sense to claim it. Unless they weren't, to man, watching the ball. Not sure if St Sachin of the Selective Deafness was there at the time. I like to think he was.

Dude....

You guys have Michael Clarke.....

 

[social]

Dude....

You guys have Michael Clarke.....

Not even close

If Dhoni had been from a neighbouring country, he'd have received a massive censure

Disgraceful really

 

[Shri]

Dude....

You guys have Michael Clarke.....

You say that like its a STD.

 

[silentstriker]

You say that like its a STD.

Nah, much respect for his continuing one-man crusade to play Test cricket with the one bounce rule.

 

[Uppercut]

You love cheating. Quit complaining.

 

[silentstriker]

I'm not complaining at all....

 

[G.I.Joe]

Dude....

You guys have Michael Clarke.....

Victim complex!!!!!

 

[Burgey]

Dude....

You guys have Michael Clarke.....

Who, in fairness, has already been mentioned here.

Clarke's real shocker IMHO wasn't the Sydney catch, which I'm still not sure about and which was Ganguly who deserved it, but the absolute shocker at square leg vs NZ in an ODI. He even got up and looked at the umpire with a quizzical look on his dial. How the umpire, who was right next to him, thought it was anywhere near out is beyond me.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Who, in fairness, has already been mentioned here.

Clarke's real shocker IMHO wasn't the Sydney catch, which I'm still not sure about and which was Ganguly who deserved it, but the absolute shocker at square leg vs NZ in an ODI. He even got up and looked at the umpire with a quizzical look on his dial. How the umpire, who was right next to him, thought it was anywhere near out is beyond me.

Yep. That was ridiculous. Should have been banned for an ODI or two for that. After all, there was a precident for censure for claiming such blatant non-catches. Plus, the ump should have been flogged for being generally quite ****.

 

[silentstriker]

He's just trying to help his team win TBH. If the umpires are blind, the technology is ambiguous and the ICC toothless, why wouldn't you do that? Murray mints, bottle caps, and one bounce rule FTW.