Battle of the Subcontinent

[silentstriker]

Okay forget Jadeja and exclude Sidhu, Salim Malik and Habibul Bashar. Very good cricketers the first two but so are many on that list. Looks like a top list.

Well we have 64 now, so if you want to remove those, who should I add in their place?

 

[PhoenixFire]

Moin Khan

Rashid Latif

 

[Pratters]

Well we have 64 now, so if you want to remove those, who should I add in their place?

I took too much time thinking and didn't see you already omitted 3. Just ignore that post of mine and delete your post cos we have 64 either way.

 

[adharcric]

I can go on and on forever with this list, but it looks pretty solid right now. Let's get it going.

 

[Fusion]

Kardar led Pakistan to victories over all the test playing countries that he met. As a pakistan fan, I am suprised to hear you say that. Surely, he has contributed to Pakistani a lot more than even the likes of Shoaib Akhtar?

That's precisely the reason I nominated him. He is considered the "father" of Pakistan cricket. He instilled confidence and discipline in the team. I do agree that purely as a "player" he probably doesn't deserve inclusion in this battle. I was thinking more about his impact as a whole. Regardless, I have no problem with his name being removed in place of the others mentioned.

 

[silentstriker]

All righty then...here we go:

Round 1, Battle 1

Amar Singh


vs.

Mushtaq Ahmed

 

[PhoenixFire]

Mushy

 

[silentstriker]

Just FYI, Amar Singh might have been the finest bowler of his era.


Thats one indian pace bowler who was not rubbish.

And Phoenix, your vote counts only once regardless of how often you vote.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Oh dear my bad, I had to press it 3 times because I thought it wouldn't work. I do like Mushy though...

 

[Pratters]

Thats one indian pace bowler who was not rubbish.

Check out Md. Nissar as well. Glad to know you don't consider every pace bowler from India rubbish now.

 

[silentstriker]

Check out Md. Nissar as well. Glad to know you don't consider every pace bowler from India rubbish now.

Yea, neither of them played enough though. Kapil Dev was a decent Test quality bowler. Srinath was a notch below, but he was Test quality. I can't think of many else really since WWII.

 

[Fusion]

I'm afraid I don't know too much about Amar Singh. The cricinfo profile does paint a great picture of him. However, I have to go with Mushy since I've seen him play and rate him highly.

 

[Sanz]

Mushtaq Ahmad. He is one of my favorite Pakistani cricketers and Amar Singh didn't play long enough.

 

[nightprowler10]

Yeah Amar Singh sounds good, but I'll have Mushy please.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Really surprised Mushy's bowling average is as high as it is. Been a great servant for Sussex as well as Pakistan.

Amar Singh looked like he was potentially a great player & Len Hutton is no mean judge, but with only 7 tests it's slightly too much of a supposition for me.

Mushtaq Ahmed.

 

[Slifer]

Mustaq

 

[grecian]

How did Amar Singh die, it was during the war, but it doesn't say if that was it or not?

Amar Singh, I'll always go for possibly glamorous potential, over boring old longevity.

Mushys a great performer though, love watching him bowl. Hes going to win this round anyway.

 

[Pratters]

How did Amar Singh die, it was during the war, but it doesn't say if that was it or not?

Pneumonia.

Or typhoid.

It was a tragedy that both met with unexpected and premature deaths. Amar Singh, while attending a wedding at the home of the Khansaheb of Manavadar, had been for a long swim when he suddenly fell ill and caught a fever. The jamsaheb of Nawanagar came to see Amar Singh when he was lying on a bed at the Cricketers' Cottage and he learned that the fever had given rise to typhoid. Amar Singh died on May 21, 1940 at the age of only 29.

Two pieces saying two different things. The typhoid piece sounds more authentic. Any way, sickness and not related to war.

 

[grecian]

Pneumonia.

Thanks

 

[Pratters]

Amar Singh didn't play more tests but did play unofficial tests like this:

Lord Tennyson's team which visited India for five unofficial Tests in 1937-38 found Amar Singh a real handful as he repeatedly ran through them to finish with 36 wickets in the series at 16.66. Indeed Joe Hardstaff jnr, a classy bat who came on that tour, rated him as the best bowler in the world at the time after Bill O'Reilly...

According to Hammond, then in the prime of his abilities, Amar Singh was "as dangerous an opening bowler as I have ever seen, coming off the pitch like the crack of doom.

The piece is a good read for more on Amar Singh.