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Battle of the Subcontinent

JBH001

International Regular
Pratyush said:
Amar Singh didn't play more tests but did play unofficial tests like this:

Lord Tennyson's team which visited India for five unofficial Tests in 1937-38 found Amar Singh a real handful as he repeatedly ran through them to finish with 36 wickets in the series at 16.66. Indeed Joe Hardstaff jnr, a classy bat who came on that tour, rated him as the best bowler in the world at the time after Bill O'Reilly...

According to Hammond, then in the prime of his abilities, Amar Singh was "as dangerous an opening bowler as I have ever seen, coming off the pitch like the crack of doom.


The piece is a good read for more on Amar Singh.
Gee, I knew about Nissar but not about this guy.
What happened to India's pace bowlers after partition? lol!

In almost 60 years, it has been just Kapil and Srinath.
Incidentally, the memory of Kapil's last years in the game should not colour recollections of his bowling - for he was genuinely a great bowler. I just wish he had retired soon after the 90/91 series against Aus in Aus where he took 25 wickets instead of hanging grimly on and trying to beat Hadlee's 431 at the rate of a wicket a test match.
Srinath too was very good, under-rated too I think, he got better once he learned the leg-cutter off Walsh and became a very effective bowler - though at times he could go for a few. I often felt for him, because a number of catches were dropped off his bowling, or continual fielding lapses gave too many runs away. I can still remember that look of frustration, pain, and resignation as another catch was dropped off his bowling, before he turned around and trudged back to his mark. IIRC there was a cricinfo article that stated that Srinath suffered the most dropped catches of all bowlers in recent times - lol!

But yeah, India with 2 competent pace bowlers in 60 years is a shocking stastistic.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Pratyush said:
Amar Singh didn't play more tests but did play unofficial tests like this:

Lord Tennyson's team which visited India for five unofficial Tests in 1937-38 found Amar Singh a real handful as he repeatedly ran through them to finish with 36 wickets in the series at 16.66. Indeed Joe Hardstaff jnr, a classy bat who came on that tour, rated him as the best bowler in the world at the time after Bill O'Reilly...

According to Hammond, then in the prime of his abilities, Amar Singh was "as dangerous an opening bowler as I have ever seen, coming off the pitch like the crack of doom.


The piece is a good read for more on Amar Singh.
Thanks Again, I really should of looked a little harder, but I'm intrinsically lazy.

Still, its good to know about someone I'd not heard of before today. Hammond, Hutton and Hardstaff were all clearly impressed.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
JBH001 said:
Gee, I knew about Nissar but not about this guy.
What happened to India's pace bowlers after partition?
There was even Amar Singh's elder brother Ramji who was supposed to be at least nastier if not even faster. Politics harmed Ramji greatly. A FC bowling average of 17.37 definitely does show that he was not entirely poor.

All three fast bowlers in fact played for India in their first test. It can be debated if India have ever had a more potent trio pace attack since then.. :D
 

Beleg

International Regular
As a pakistan fan, I am suprised to hear you say that. Surely, he has contributed to Pakistani a lot more than even the likes of Shoaib Akhtar?
Kardar captained the team that won against all the countries. If you really want to look at players who stood out in the victories, look at Wazir Mohammad, Imtiaz Ahmad, Fazal Mahmood, Khan Mohammad and Hanif Mohammad. Kardar's actual in-field contribution was pretty minimial - on the other hand, he really shown in the management side of the things.

Shoaib Akhtar's bowling figures are some of the best in sub-continent. He has performed against pretty much all teams.
 

Beleg

International Regular
Mushtaq Ahmad. Comparing someone who has played 40 odd tests with someone like Amar Singh isn't really fair to both of them.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Amar Singh. Looking at what someone of the caliber of Hutton said about him, it's hard not to vote for him, especially as Mushtaq Ahmed is not really an all-time great IMO.
 

luffy

International Captain
Amar Singh

Also would you be able to put there stats up when you say two players as it makes it easier.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
luffy said:
Amar Singh

Also would you be able to put there stats up when you say two players as it makes it easier.
Only reason I don't is because I want people to actually look at the cricinfo page and read the caption. For some people (like Amar Singh) it makes all the difference.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
silentstriker said:
Only reason I don't is because I want people to actually look at the cricinfo page and read the caption. For some people (like Amar Singh) it makes all the difference.
Add to that the fact that you're lazy :p
 

luffy

International Captain
silentstriker said:
Only reason I don't is because I want people to actually look at the cricinfo page and read the caption. For some people (like Amar Singh) it makes all the difference.
It just saves having to be looking at two pages at once.
 

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